Hmmmmm.....thats what I have to say on this one. Hmmmmmmm..... The mechinizations of the Circle are always one of those things that can go either way. It works as you have it, though. A funny thought...the Circle of Eight, in their equivelant of a bar brawl...broken up by Mordenkainen. You certainly have the makings for it here. Tom What a difficult episode to read (and probably write). Nobody was happy with anything, and everything was worse off than before, but it was the council who set things in motion, and didn't go along to help out, so the council had precious little to complain about. Lots of good dialogue between the realistic council members, and the idealistic blatherers. Put up or shut up, dumn fucks. Er, um, sorry. All in all, I liked the story, although I suspect others will be less thrilled by it than I. Leonard good job over all. the circle of eight has to remember that it is basically impossible to get out of the situation the adventurers were in. on the home plane of a demon lord with his vast armies is NOT an easy thing to get away from... Christian