Hello Thomas, How are you? Just a couple of comments/suggestions for upcoming Adventurers stories. First, Rillen and Songa are coming up next. How about doing something more with Rillen's staff. It's supposed to have some other magical properties or abilities. This needs to be investigated and or demonstrated sometime soon. Also, does he still have his Onyx dog? If so, this would be a good time to use it somehow, even if only as a guard dog since there are only 3 of them traveling. The stories mention how Rillen and Songa want to move away from the rest of the tribe. Maybe Rillen can use his ring of Djinni summoning to create them a nice hidden home/castle/fortress. A interesting twist you could add would be for Songa to enter the next fighting contest without Rillen knowing. Her motivation could be to prove to Rillen that she can take care of herself. His feeling she needs protection is her biggest complaint. You can make it even more interesting if after a few preliminary rounds, they meet in the ring! (She can even disguise herself before this to add more mystery) This can either be the point when Rillen realizes she can hold her own and he doesn't have to protect her and they continue as a couple and their relationship gets even better (sorry Arnold). Or Rillen can let Songa win, not wanting to hurt her and she can get mad at him and they finally break up. An even bigger twist would be if she went on to win the tournament, something he wasn't able to do. (I don't know how feasible this is considering the past winners and Rillen's skill) He could have his ego hurt adding to the problems in their relationship. Now Arnold (if he's still around) has to choose whether to help his friend Rillen overcome his ego and try to work things out with Songa, or seize the opportunity for himself and go after Songa. That's your call but having Arnold secretly love Songa sounds a little like a soap opera so be careful with that issue. As for Mongo, he need to use the lightning bolts in his hammer more often. He could have prevented any of the bandits from getting away if he used the lightning bolts. Does the regeneration power of his armor work in conjunction with his ring of regeneration? If so, great, if not, he should give the ring to his comrade in arms Gorin so he has a little better protection to keep up with Mongo (no easy task). Mongo should use the haste of his armor more often also. I think maybe his character is just too much a creature of habit and preferring the old, simple ways of just hack and slash. Maybe Lord Marcus can teach him to take advantage of all that you have at your disposal (ie, haste, lightning bolts, feather fall, regeneration, etc...) It'd be interesting to see something happen with his ring of Fire Elemental Control. Maybe they can be in a battle with say Fire Giants who have a couple Fire Elementals around. None would attack Mongo which would make Lord Marcus or one of his advisors/mages question this and discover the true nature of his ring. Maybe do something similar with Gorin's armbands of the airy ones. An interesting scenario would be for Mongo to fight against a bunch of giants with Thor. It could either be a glorious battle where they fight side by side, kick some serious ass, even showing off with each other and celebrate together and commend each other for their performance in the battle. Or, it could be a humbling experience for Mongo to keep his ego from getting to big and to make him realize that no matter how good he is, he's not invincible. (ie. Mongo could be overwhelmed by giants and Thor could come down and save his ass because he's been watching Mongo, admires him and his hammer) The lesson teaching scenario could lead into Lord Marcus teaching him to fight smarter and use everything at his disposal. Lord Marcus' lessons could lead to investigating all the abilities of all his possessions by Marcus' mages. I know you have several stories written already, this is just some food for thought. Thanks for listening... Look forward to the next story. Bob Ericksen. Adventurers 513 Beautiful episode! Cute names, too. More seriously, the story was well crafted, with as much punch as Mongo's hammer. It's going to be interesting to see what Lord Marcus has in store for Mongo; training him as a captain or general is going to cause friction with Noggin, I'll bet. And then there's the problem of a legendary hero (he does tote *two* artifacts after all) doing non-legendary things. I'll warrant you've a treat in store But now no Mongo until next year :{ Adventureers 512 Another excellent oeuvre. Your description of the arrow-shot reminded me of Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves, and the bit about Mongo and Gorin in the aftermath added just the right amount of humour. Oh well, it's only 3 days til my next fix! qts Thomas: In episode 223 Rillen was given a new staff. The monk said wizened old man: You may find that the staff has... other powers, ones which you might learn over time. Have you developed this in any of your episodes. I do not remember anything in that area (I have read everything twice already. Helps the sanity at work). John W. Fox hey thomas, this was fun. rob has always had potential. you did a good job of showing his capabilities but you need to show it in a situation/place where those that would normally make fun of him see his true worth. sort of one of those "let's give rob the respect he deserves." thingies. now that you named this dragon, you're going to have to update the rogue's gallery file... matt I just wanted to tell you that I stumbled on your web-site a few days ago, and I'm really impressed. I've downloaded the stories from one of the other pages, all _5000_ pages, and I'm in the process of reading them. I've already gone through one printer cartridge, and I'm sure I'll go through plently more. I think the stories are great, and the characters are a good mix. I'm kind of waiting for Rob to go Postal, if you know what I mean. I would like to be subscribed to your mailing list, if you have room for one more. I'm very much looking forward to reading all of the stories. Thanks and keep up the good work! William First, I suppose I have to say the stories are great. I discovered them earlier this year, and had the fortune(?) of being able to read them at will. Now that I've caught up to you, I have to wait! A terrible transistion to have to make. Now, to the business at hand: how 'bout a Lost Tales for the terrasque (loved #250)? Chris Great story on that one. I love all the Helgate stories, and hope ya make that your main focus. Belphanior and Otto are by far my two favorite characters, though Mongo is a close 3rd. I was a bit sad to see Felicia have to lead Eduardo, but ah well, I hope to see more of Helgate. Keep up the awesome work. Wright One word: EXCELLENT! Reading about the Helgate marshals, to me, is reminiscent of reading the early stories of the Adventurers -- getting to know cool characters through some solid action. The political stuff and weddings are nice, but it's nice to get some old fashioned adventure and (dare I hope) a dungeon crawl sometimes, too. As always, you're doing a great job! Keep it up! Heli I really like Helgate, too. It makes Belphanior a much more interesting character, and there are lots of possible plots for somewhere like Helgate. Happy sixth birthday! Adrian I just read 519 and and had one thought, Ys and Mongo should arm wrestle. -- Zachary I noticed in your sneak previews section that you were working on modules or accessories that you used in your campaign. How are those coming along? They sound really interesting, and a good Greyhawk DM can use all the good material they can get! Ken Stoltz Glad your still writing! I like when the adventurers get they asses kicked. Its more fun to come out of a defeated situation. Mark I really liked this story line :) good action. I love Martial Arts stuff so it went down my alley perfectly. I just wished the mage hadnt died, *sigh* Im a mage lover. I hope to hear more stories of Rillen like this in the future. He is really fleshing out. Steven Noticed that Ys has a "potion of intimidation." I think this wins the award for the most superfluous magic item I've ever come across... :-) Joe Ahem.Well maybe not, but close enough. Just wanted to write and say how brilliant has been to be reading ur stories. I really hope u don't mind, but I've printed out all ur stories (Three Blasted Folders Worth!) but don't worry, I won't charge my friends to read them. And, I love ur Alt.Future idea, sounds brilliant. Just annoyed I won't be o/l to read them, so I'm going to have to coerce some internet able friends to keep getting them for me :) Keep up the good work, and I just hope that I stay o/l enough to at least finish this Belphanior arc, sounds groovy. Regards, and best wishes (esp. to Rillen, CONGRATS!) Colin Just thought I'd drop you a line to tell you how much I've been enjoying your Adventurers series. A friend of mine recently gave me all the books he had, and I've been slowly but surely slogging my way through them, and I've been loving every minute of it! =) Several of my friends have also begun reading the series now, and they love it, too... in fact, it's inspired us all to start playing AD&D again (none of us had played since the early 80s using 1st edition). Ahh, the joys of being a harrowed DM. =) Being a professional cartoonist, I've even gone so far as to draw up the first episode in comic book form (don't panic, it's only for my own personal time-filling). =) Finally, I'd just like to say thanks for letting us in on the characters (and I mean in both the real life AND r.p.g. senses) you've encountered. It makes for great reading. And though I understand you're on a break at the moment (a well-deserved one, at that), let me assure you that both myself and many others will be truly saddened if (when?) the series finishes for good. But in the meantime, keep it up! =) Murray Hey Thomas, you did not hear from me in quite a while, but rest assured that I am still reading & enjoying the stories. There is not much for me to say about the Adventurers, but I couldn't let a Rob story pass without a cheer! There must be other Rob fans among your readers, but not that many.. Anyway, Rob-on-his-own turned out pretty much as I expected him to be. I would not mind seeing him reappear more often ;-) Cheers, Casper Thomas, I have been reading the Adventurers since August and have just now caught up with the current story. I still have Lost Tales 5-9 to go but I'll get them out of the way sometime. My favorite Adventurer has been Alindyar since almost the very beginning with Belphanior and Bosco coming in a closely tied second. My favorite story line is probably the one about Alindyar finding his extra-dimensional home. The spells that the two have researched have also been very cool. I live in Greenville, SC. You probably know where that is living in Atlanta as you do. I have a few questions for you though some are a bit outdated. 1. Why don't the henchmen have their own henchmen? Peldor, Mongo, and Alindyar got their henchpeople long before the levels that said henchpeople have attained. 2. Why didn't Peldor use his Glass Dagger with the metalcutting ability to kill the Iron Dwarf? 3. Why don't Ged's brother Aristophilus and Belphanior get together? They seem to be very similar. I think that the stories are great. I hope that you keep writing. Bryan Thomas Just thought I'd drop you a line wishing you and yours all the best for the Yuletide season. Have a great time etc. and a prosperous New Year. By the way I am really enjoying the Belphanior story. I have to admit I find stories about Belphanior/Helgate/Peldor/Greyhawk far more enjoyable than the others which may be because I have played thieves more than fighters etc. I thought that Victoria's lost tale was super. One question I thought I would ask you as a fellow DM, would you rule raise dead 'lethal' on her the same as a Spectre/Wight or other Negative plane type? PPS I don't know if you have spotted it but TSR's web site says that there will be more Greyhawk stuff in '98, plus Out of Print stuff is becoming available. All the best Simon Speaking of Lost Tales, where was the Wispy Thing between the time it disappeared at the boundary of that anti-magic zone surrounding the last tournament Rillen went to and the time it finally caught up with the party again? -- Lucius Thank you for a lovely story! I see you've been flipping through the Artefacts section of the DMG again! Isle of Woe indeed. I presume you're going to introduce the Codex and Tzunk? It would be a wonderful way for Orcus to try and damn Belphanior. I still think his efforts against Orcus should merit some attention from other Powers (Zagyg, Ygorl?), but I know that whatever you have planned, it will be good. QTS Thomas, I've been a fan for some two and more years, now, and I just wonder how you do it! The Adventurers are greater than any book I have ever read, and indeed ever will. I am a DM, and I got most - in fact all - of my players to read The Adventurers. They all love it, and are now greater role-players because they have read it. So, I thank you for taking all that stress of my shoulders (it is so much easier not having to say "keep to your alignment" or "rangers don't do that kind of thing" or "no, rangers do NOT wear plate mail!!" all the time). Thanks greatly. My party consists of five characters and five players, which you may add to your list of people who read the adventurers in Australia. One of which of my players is Terence Ernstzen, the IRC guy, in case you don't remember. So, thanks a lot. I reckon that there's about five to ten people more per person who you know read the Adventurers, because I must admit I know about ten to fifteen. So, thanks a lot. When does Lyra have children? Further, when does Tanya have children? Hmm... Or even Nenya? Gee, you could say Ged is the father! Heh heh heh. Some of the parts in the Adventurers which stand out greatly to me are: 1.) the tarrasque comes to Oerth. 2.) Peldor becomes a politician (?) 3.) and every other goddamn episode!!!!! I better not say more because that wouldn't be fair on every other episode you've written! I'm writing up my party's adventures, after being inspired by the Adventurers. So, may the times roll on! Thanks again. Daryl Kell P.S. Why did Ged die? Dammit, I want to know! It's my right... Greetings, First, I would like to congratulate you on the superb job you have done in writing this series of stories... I have enjoyed them like no other. I just recently discovered your wonderful writing, and I have been devouring your stories at the average of about 30 per day for the last couple of weeks, and I have just finished the latest. (Of course, Ultima Online, school and girls have been taking up some time, otherwise I would have finished earlier...) I especially like the references to movies, fiction, history, etc., in many of the story lines, names, situations, etc. (It's made me laugh out-loud more than a few times... something that doesn't happen very often while reading... for me, at least.) I also look forward to the events that you detail in your life... Mardi Gras, your cruise, etc... they add a very nice personal touch to the stories. Regardless, I can say with certainty that I will be reading, and enjoying, your stories far, far into the future... you have created a wonderous world indeed. With all sincerity, (and looking forward to next Wednesday!) M.K.S. Greetings. I recently ran across the Adventurers on the WWW. Now (perhaps a week-and-a-half) later, I've cleaned out all the episodes in Murphy's Archive. I've greatly enjoyed the stories so far, and would like to be subscribed to your mailing list. I'm afraid that I do have to add my protest to one of your other fan mails- how *is* it that Belphanior kept up in mage levels with Ged, as Belphanior was split three ways to Ged's two, and Ged was far more "mage-oriented" in his approach anyhow? I have to say I miss Ged- he was my favorite Adventurer- but he died in a heroic manner, and that is an eternal tribute to him. Also- shouldn't Ged's Glorious Identification be in the Arcanum? Hope to soon see more. Nathan Dear Thomas, Another brilliant, wonderful, fantastic story from you again as usual. Specifically - Nice touch with the vulnerability shown by Aja > Of course I can walk! I healed my legs, and I also have a > ring that- (she stops talking as she gets to her feet, then collapses > against a wall) Ow. - It is great to see the Mage/Priestess using their magical power to fly (Hmmm. I didn't know that priests had a fly spell !?) and pepper the hapless warriors below with their magical attacks. - I really enjoy the use of Thunder Staff and the Terror Rod (nothing pisses me off more than having a really nifty wide area weapon and not being able to use it in a Dungeon crawl for fear of hurting my comrades). - I really enjoy seeing Razor Charlie fearlessly taking on the bandits more or less by himself. His previously unused whip skill is awesome ! Etc... o Just a few questions that keep bothering me : - I am sure that Alindyar and Elphanior have spells that would be useful to each other. Why do they so rarely trade spells ? I find this extremely distressing. Apart from the standard selfishness angle, surely, a friend mage who has access to your useful spells would greatly aid the cause of the party (and hence less chance of you being killed). - I have never, ever seen Belphanior using the spell invulnerability : Is it because (a) He doesn't know it ? (b) He is not high enough level (c) Both As a matter of fact, I would love to see Belphanior roasting a few monsters with good high level spells (What good level 7, 8 offensive spells do Belphanior have ? He never seems to seem to use them) Thank you once again for a great story and I look forward to reading the climax ending next week. I also take this opportunity to wish you a Well Deserved and Relaxing Christmas and a Really Successful New Year. May your writing ideas continue to flow unabated. With Best Wishes. Your devoted fan. Philip 525 This was a fantastic story, and all done in a single episode (ignoring the detailed lead-in episodes). Wow! I liked just about all of it, and really enjoyed the entire story as a whole. Really cool things: the return of the death knight, the sky ship (duh), and the battle for the sky ship. I remember back when Belphanior had his sky balloon and encountered a black dragon, which they foolishly annoyed, and I thought it would be fun to have Belphanior (or any other crew member) spot a very large red dragon flying in the distance. Leonard Hey, a few comments: Belphanior would definitely have cast a stoneskin on himself serveral times over in the story, instead of only once (and right before the climactic battle no less, using up a spell slot!) Also I was wondering why Belphanior would actually vow not to break any of Greyhawk's laws... promising that he wouldn't kill the dude was good 'nuff by my estimation. I liked the touch about the family, and the friends, and the friends friends, etc :) also I liked how certain powers discovered Orcus's heavyhanded machinations in the prime material... keep up the good work! Gabriel Hi Thomas - Just a quick feedback on #525 - it was great! Belphanior is quite the optimist to think he can bargin with Orcus, but to my surprise he got some pretty high powered help. I would think he would follow the advice of the Death Knight and consult with Victoria about his plans. She could get pissed if he ignores her wishes! Anyway, keep up the good work. Wednesday's are my favorite day of the week! Ted Well Thomas, you have out-done yourself this time. I enjoyed this story arc more than any other. It was incredibly complex. It involved many powerful and notable figures. It tied up many loose ends. Man, incredible!!! Kronos's ship is very cool. I expect to see Belph's crew use it on many exciting adventures in the future. I really enjoyed seeing Belphanoir speak with the Death Knight. Of all the adventurers, only Belph would openly deal with such a creature. I liked the thought of an evil, but noble creature defying the will of Orcus. If it isn't too much to ask, which demon lord did Gorath cut a deal with? Among other questions: Was Xusia the lich released by the party from the lost Suel city in the Suss forest? I think it was very fitting for Boccob to check Orcus's actions. Maybe Ged had his ear in the afterlife? :-) How was Orcus planning to act against Belphanoir? Was he just going to ignore the pact he made with Belph and attack him right there? Will we see Xusia's castle detailed in a future Adventurers module or supplement? Speaking of that, how goes the efforts to sell the various modules, supplement, etc to TSR? Any hope? Well, I've tugged on your ear long enough. Let me end this letter by telling you that you have passed up R.A. Salvatore as my favorite author. I have been working on setting up a new campaign in the World of Greyhawk and these stories you write are Canon in my Greyhawk. Thanks for the great stories, and keep up the good work! Have a great christmas and new year break! Arcane Thomas, I don't usually give much feedback, but this was incredible. I love you, man!!! ;) A great, GREAT story! -- Victor Right. Thanks for replying. By the way, an excellent job of writing ep. 525! I personally never care for deus ex machina endings, but hey, it's your story. -- Chris > It wasn't that bad of a deux ex machina...I don't care for them > either, but with the power levels involved, there aren't many other > ways to resolve these things... > That's true. It all depends on how active an interest you are willing to give the Powers in events that they aren't focusing on specifically. At any rate, well done. I'll be interested to see how you resolve Victoria's feelings on this turn of events. -- Chris Hey Thomas, I was re-reading #525 and I was again struck with a question. I've been meaning to ask you this for a while, but how do you do spell memorization for mages? Many of the adventurers, Belph, Ged, Lyra, Alindyar, etc seem to be able to cast the exact spell they need on hand for any situation. I mean, Belph actually had the forsight to have a Gust of Wind memorized to blow away the crimson mist dude? Do you do spell memorization as it is in the AD&D books, or some homebrew method? If it's homebrew, would you mind giving me an overview? Thanks, Arcane > I hate to admit it, but your suspicion is close...I tend to >just give them whatever spells come in handy to further the >story at the time... I figured...:-) > Now, I've long thought that spells SHOULD work as follows: >spell points. Every spell a mage can memorize is worth a # >of points (1 for 1st level, 2 for 2nd level, etc.) and this total ># of points can be drawn upon in any way the mage sees fit. Thus >a 3rd level mage (who gets 2 1st level + 1 2nd level spell) would >have (2*1)+(1*2)=4 spell points; he could cast 4 1st level spells >from his list, or 2 1st and 1 2nd, or 2 2nd, as long as he still >had enough points left. > > I guess this does kinda jive with what I've been doing... > > Whatcha think? I actually used the above system for quite while. It worked fairly well, it allows higher level casters to cast very large numbers of low level spells (though, in my mind that fits nicely to what a mage should be able to do). I used a few variants to the above, One variant allowed manipulation of spells on the fly by high level magi through the use of special spell mastery "magic proficencies". These proficencies were not gained until 5th level, the they were gained at every odd numbered level. They could be used, along with extra spell points to alter aspects of spells, either doubling (1.5 times if for damage) or halving the desired aspect. These proficencies could each either be used once a day on any spell or they could be used repeatedly (only once per casting though) on a spell if they were allocated to that specific spell at the beginning of the day. For example, Ged could cast fireball, using one proficiency and double the spell points (6) to cast a fireball with a 40 ft radius (instead of 20 ft) or a 10 ft radius (instead of 20 ft) or 15d6 damage (instead of 10d6) The aspects that could be altered, depending on the spell, were Range - Duration - Casting Time (lowering of course) - Damage (I also toyed with the idea of minuses to victim's saving throws?) This variant allows magi to customize their spells to their needs and it helped burn away their spell points quicker (a magi using 4 magic proficiencies on a fireball would end up using 15 spell points - but have an amazing effect [casting a bigger fireball, for more damage, farther away, in half the time). The second variant I used also had the spell point system, but the mage could only cast spell from a selection he had memorized. For example, a 5th level mage would memorize a selection of 4 different 1st level spells, 2 different 2nd level spells, & 1 3rd level spell. He could then cast magic missile 4 times, invisibility twice and fireball once, or he could cast fireball three times. This variant allowed the mage to have a wider selection of spells to choose from (he doesn't need to memorize magic missile twice to cast it twice, just once) while it does limit his selection some. As I am preparing to run a campaign sometime in the near future (to me that means late spring/early summer :-), I have been reviewing which of my various house rules to use. I like the way the spellcasters in your stories are able to deal with diverse problems by using a wide selection of spells, so I believe I am going to revive my old spell point system. I had gotten away from it because I had a few old school, by the rules in the books, players a while back. This raises another question though. Since the "spell points" rules variant makes spellcasters more powerful, does it leave fighters and thieves in the dust? Does it make the magi and priests too powerful? Since I allow spellcasters to master their spells somewhat, should I not also allow fighters to master their sword somewhat? Maybe by allowing them to practice certain called-shot manuevers, thereby lowering the to-hit penalties. or maybe by allowing them to raise there to hit number by 2 to raise the damage by 2hp? (You swing harder with less control over the weapon?) Or vice versa, making it easier to hit the person, but doing less damage? (you swing lighter, but you have more control over the weapon?) What could I do for a thief or a bard, or even a monk? Arcane Somthing absolutely awesome!! =) I just finished reading the 525:th chapter of the Adventurers, and I truly have to say that you still can write some marvelous text! Was this some kind of a "special chapter" due to it's lenght? This story is one of the best of them all, though Belphanior should have beheaded Xusia. Well, maybe later. :) - Antti Well, you probably won't read this till next year now, but have a heartfelt thanks for keeping on with the stories. Once again I'll extend the (now seasonal) offer of hospitality to my home in the UK. You might get here eventually! ;-) I have enjoyed the many stories of the adventurers, now that they have split up. Belphanior is still treading that fine line of destruction, and I wonder if the yellow eye which appeared to repell Orcus was actually the spirit of Ged? Who else uses "Yea!" in their vocabulary... I look forwards to Peldor's upcoming thieves war too. After the year's stories my favorite characters are definately Peldor, Belphanior and Alindyar, with Otto, Razor Charlie and Ys as the best henchmen. Well, go forth and grab a wench for a Christmas one-nighter. Drink to excess at new year, and have a great holiday. Pete Hello Thomas! A name search on the Internet revealed me as an NPC dragon in your story. I'm much honored, but wonder where you came up with the name. I'm named after a vanquished Danish tribe of vikings by way of Shakespeare's Julius Caesar. I work as a writer and crew coach in Silicon Valley and do play an occasional game of D&D. Cheers, Cymber I was idly stumbling about on the net when I encountered your page. Excellent site. It caught my interest at first because of the reference "Green Dragon Inn" though ... The first town in my AD&D campaign world for which I drew a map had an inn known as the "Green Dragon Inn"; that was way back in early 1980. == Serian Happy Holidays yourself, Thomas! I finally went back a few months ago, and read all of the old Adventurers I had missed (I started in around the time they were in New Orleans.) I have seen your writing style improve markedly - and it was entertaining to begin with! Thank you for turning out, on such a reliably regular basis, such excellent stories. I'm looking forward to seeing what Peldor is up to... Michael Hi Thomas, >Otto: I guess we'd better head for home... >wispy thing: Yrrrp! Wow! I am... impressed. I think it was particularly effective to remind our heroes that yes, there are things a whole lot more powerful than they can ever hope to be... I had some misgivings regarding the possible cure of Victoria; if there were a cure for vampirism, they'd lose a lot of their menace. I rather suspect that Orcus would have said something along the lines of "right, she's cured" and turned her to dust... >notes: Thus concludes the first half-year's work following my > break from writing. At this pace, we're looking at 50 episodes > (plus whatever else) per year. Granted, this is slower than the > pace I've maintained in the past, but then again, I don't make > my living doing this. I have a lot of things going on, and I > see no signs of this changing. Hey. No problem. I like what you do. > For those who think Victoria's going to take Belphanior's > actions lightly...think again! This issue/argument will be > addressed in future episodes. Well, yes. Asking doesn't hurt... assumptions do. > Some have asked what real-life ethnic groups certain of > Helgate's adventurers correspond to, so here's a rough idea: > > Jutokai Hawaiian, Polynesian > Kinichi American Indian > Razor Charlie, Eduardo Hispanic > Aja white girl Ys? :) I confess, I'm interested in seeing more of this bunch. They're still connected with the original crew via Belphanior, but they haven't ramped up to the major power levels and politics that the originals are now doing; it's good to have a change of pace now and again. (Though I'm curious about Alindyar's relationship with the Greyhawk mages.) > * Adventurers - will continue as before Good! > * Lost Tales - will continue as before, until #25 (the last one) Also good! > * NEW STUFF - rather than commit to any continuing series, I'll > probably release pilots for each of the following and play it > by ear after that: > * Misadventurers - think "Dirty Dozen" meets fantasy Heh. > * ???????????????? - a new fantasy story, unbound by AD&D rules "?????", he said mildly. > * Rogue Squad - sci-fi military stories set in "Star Frontiers" I've read the intro, and it sounds fun... Cheers, Roger Happy Holidays. I loved the recent 3-part episode. :) Dave hello there! first off, congrats for a great job on 525. I don't mind the deux ex machina ending. In fact, I was almost expecting it, seeing as how Bel was dealing with much superior powers. (btw, an *EYE*? talking about restoring *BALANCE*? if it had only been purple... as a certain elf used to say, Boccob!) (btw2, old joke: Q: what does it take to beat a god? A: Another god!) second, (criticism time) I think Peldor underuses his feathers. Since he's got a wish every year, I'd expect certain *odd* things to be happening. (the Green Dragon rebuilds itself, the return of Org, etc., a certain punk named Belgar to find himself inside an active volcano...) (hmm... suggestion for Lost Tale: whatever happened to that guy?) third . (suggestions) Actually, I don't really have any. I'd like an insight into Belphanior's psyche: does he ever get tired of the life he leads? does he ever wanna just chuck Blackrazor, teleport himself and Victoria somewhere quiet and peaceful? or would he get bored? Also, I think skipping ahead to the Greyhawk Wars would be an interesting idea. You could show (as I recall you once mentioned) major changes in the Adventurer's lives and hint at how they happened. Anyways, happy holidays to you and yours, and please keep pumping out good stories. You've made Wednesdays my favorite day of the week. Ben As for Adventurers 525, what's the story behind the wispy thing? I think if you're going to give him these incredible powers (magic jar, possession of demons and ghosts??), then its time to start thinking about a history for him. I mean, its cool to just keep him a mystery when he is a semi-harmless companion, but now he's becoming a whole lot more than that. All in all, 525 was a pretty awesome story. Happy Holidays! Hope you take some time to relax and enjoy yourself! Ken 526 I like it. This storyline could very well prove to be as interesting, or more, than Helgate (which is pretty damned good). Tom hey thomas, this is indeed a long time in coming. it's also as fun as i hoped it would be. i can't wait to see how it concludes. but, i think i'm going to be a bit disappointed that it'll only be two episodes long, and that's considering that it'll be a grand Peldor adventure... i know it will be a grand Peldor adventure because it has already started out as such. the hat of disguise is made for just such a thing. have fun, matt h. That was a GREAT story. I really enjoyed it! Wright Finally! Now that I've read everything up to episode #521, I can stop (or at least slow down a little). To feed my addiction, I'd love to get my weekly hit by joining the mailing list. Did you ever find anyone to do portraits of the characters? I've started doing some sketches, and eventually my scanner will get shipped to me and I'll be able to scan them (of course, I can always use my dad's scanner...) In case you keep track of such things, I found The Adventurers through a rather circuitous path: from the Spiderweb Software site, I went to Andrew Hunter's homepage, and from there through the Emerald Hills to the Green Dragon. The rest is history. Ben Not bad, Tom. The Wizard of Oz quote was nice, but this was undoubtedly my favorite... >man #1: Busted... >big, mustached city official: Smuggling untaxed silks, eh? >man #2: And we would've gotten away with it, if it wasn't for that > darn kid! All the best. And if you haven't seen the new bond flick, it's definitely worth it. I thought it was the best one in a long time, and Michelle Yeoh deserves no small part of the credit. ---------------------------------------------------- Joe e Thomas! How are you? Well I hope. I have just finished reading story: 372. It's turning out quite nicely so far. I think I've been one of the fortunate (relatively speaking) readers who actually started at story: 1. and have been able to progress through them in the 'preferred?' order, even if I was/is/am a late-comer to the stories (I only just stumbled across this particular treasure trove late in 1997.) I have to admit, that being an extremely new addition to the Adventurer's following, anything I say might be 'old hat' to you, but, I think I'll say it anyway... CONGRATULATIONS!!! ...for writing the best tale of epic proportion I've yet seen on the internet, and certainly better than a hell of a lot of the so-called fantasy novels out there at the moment. Your peserverance, imagination and continually entertaining stories have become a welcome addition to my daily grind at work (I usually read your stories during my lunch break). Peldor and Belphanior (in that order) are my personal favourites out of the Adventurers, but I have to admit that I quite like all of the characters and their many and varied personalities which you bring to life so well. Anyway, once I finish the current batch, I look forward to the possibility of seeing something else written by you in the future. Thanks for such a great read. Regards, Glen Greetings Mr Miller I am writing to let you know that I have really enjoyed reading your Adventurers series. I have just finished reading episodes 1 to 521 (it took quite a while :) and I am looking forward to reading the next episode. I would be grateful if you could place me on your Adventurers mailing list. I have a few questions and suggestions concerning the Adventurers. 1. Blackrazor seem to give Belphanior a fairly good indication of the direction a soul is in, yet in the few occasions he has been blinded (by spell or otherwise) he seems to stumble about unaware of the location of the enemy. Just how accurate is Blackrazor in locating a soul in relation to Belphaniors position? 2. I know that you have stated that Ged will not be raised, resurrected or reincarnated but I was wondering if he might make a cameo appearance as an avatar of Boccob. After all he was a very powerful servant of the god when he was killed and it would be a fitting reward for his faith. How he might fit into a story I am not too sure though:). 3. Any chance that Cynder might have escaped? A contingency spell perhaps or a magic item? I would really love to see a mad cynder turn up looking for the adventurers now they have looted his horde for the second time :). Well I think that is enough for now :). Keep up the good work. Thanks for your time Dave Greetings Thomas. Well Done once again. I have just finished reading episode 500. I must say, that although Ged wasn't my favourite character, I was still more than a little sad to see him expire. Anyway I think you conducted his death and subsequent events in the best way possible. It would have been inconceivable for the 'Heros' to have escaped 'The Abyss' unscathed. Glen This Peldor adventure has the makings to be one of my favorites. I enoy the all out battles and the dungeon crawls. But the intrigue and cunning for which only Peldor, of all the Adventurers, has a knack, is interesting on a lot more levels. I can't wait for the next few episodes. Jim More positively, I really enjoyed 525 - I wonder who Garath's patron might be? It wouldn't just happen to be a certain Devil, perchance? I can just imagine an unholy war between them to see who can corrupt Belphanior All the best. Q I also would like to say that you have rekindled my interest in roleplaying after years of dormancy (and disgust with TSR, but that's another matter). Phil I haven't written for a while, but thats no reflection on the quality of the last few Adventurers episodes. They've been great, though I wonder if the Belphanior/Xusia quest palled after a while? The ending seemd a tad Deus Ex Machina. On the other hand, any fiction I ever wrote has been rather sad, so I can't criticise too loudly :) Nicholas Hi there! I've just finished wading through books 1-22, and catching up on the rest of the adventurer's tales, and I must say...WAHOOO!!!!! 8P I've enjoyed them all! I did notice a few discontinuities, but nothing major. (things like Ged griping about losing his harmonica of gravity, and then having said item listed in the stats list some episodes later, or the switch from Peldor-the-God turning invisible when he sheathed Nightwing to when he DREW the sword.) Makes me want to find out if there is anyone running a D&D campain that I can join in on, don'tcha know. At any rate, just wanted to let you know that I've enjoyed what I've read so far, and look forward to the rest of their adventures. Ely hallo! was up? my name is Hugo, im from mexico, great series u have done, im still reading episode 180, so i have a looong way to go. thanks for all tha fun. it oughta keep me busy for quite a while :) alyndaar and lyra are the best! well so are u. What can I say but wow! The ending was the quintessential cliff-hanger. I found myself holding my breath after reading Sharon's last request. I know people have commented about the improvement in your writing from the early days, but I think the improvement that started with the the Thunderdelve adventure is even more dramatic. The plot lines, unanswered questions and the way you've been able to interrelate the various plots is incredible. Final point: Not that I don't enjoy Belphanoir and Otto, but the focus on that sector and the new Marshall's has caused the others to suffer. I'm glad to see Peldor getting the attention he deserves and I hope that the Drow, Mongo, and Nenya/Deryck follow suit. Thanks again, Jim Hey, this was a fun episode. Any chance of more Peyote and Daffodil (snigger) stories? There's bound to be something Peyote will need to protect the forest from. Denby That was great! I love this story arc, it was awesome. Wright hey thomas, my curiosity is peaked. i don't know where you are going with this story and that has got me on the edge of insanity. i can't wait to see what you're going to do next! that hidden area was a cool idea. i liked it alot. Matt Hi Thomas, Brilliant, Fantastic, Captivating, ... story from you once again. I was reading through the adventure while filled with tension and expectations. I also reread it many times and discovered clues which I missed earlier. An excellent plotline with plenty of twists and nuances. The details of the running of the Thieve's guild was fascinating. Thank you for a really 1st class job. Just a few minor comments on stories 528, 529 - In story 528 I would have loved to read how Corvis escaped the deadly traps set up by the Merchant that he was sent to steal his documents from. Perhaps you can incorporate this into a future lost tale. - There was no information on how the previous River Quartermaster was eliminated when Corvis took over. Surely, he can not be so incompetent as to be eliminated that easily such that it is not worth documenting. - I was surprised that Tanya was allowed to re-build the Dragon Inn without any problem from the Thieves' Guild. Perhaps you will write about this in story 530. - It was extremely careless of Sharyn to forget about the death of Zsil. If zsil was that loyal to her, she should have assumed that Zsil was killed by Corvis and that Corvis was likely to take revenge on her. - It also doesn't jive that in story 528 you mentioned Sharyn was able to detect lie/truth from her spells, and yet (a)Corvis was able to lie about his past and realistically got away with it (b) The halfling was able to embezzle so much fund undetected and not get found out over the weekly meetings - It also doesn't make sense that Sharyn tried to embezzle fund herself. She is already the most powerful thief to make such a risk not worth taking. Also, there are usually plenty of side benefits (such as huge bribes from merchants looking for favours, ...). Your writing has improved vastly over the years especially those that involved human interactions (e.g. LOVE stories such as the latest one concerning Peyote. I understand that you were under time pressure to finish so some of these points are probably moot. I look forward to reading more exciting tales from you in the future. Cheers. Philip. Hi Thomas, Just finished reading episode 529. The Corvis tale is one of the best Adventurers plotlines so far. Best regards Costas >> Glad you enjoyed it! It had some minor plot holes, but only >> for those who don't accept that greed-fueled ambition will >> always be self-defeating. >> >> >> >> tm >> this was fantastic! you pulled it off with great finesse. i love it! Matt I for one liked this story line, and the way it concluded with Peldor not taking any _obvious_ action (yeah, we know he poisoned Sharyn, but she and Simpkin did the rest to themselves with just a few gentle nudges from Peldor). Cool. Leonard Wow, I've been reading over time to catch up with you. I've not succeeded. I'm currently only on adventure CCXX. I've a long way to go before I reach your current posting. While I read, I wonder if I'm missing anything of great import. I am, I think, reading these stories in a manner that you would approve. It's fascinating to read this epic in unbroken format, ie. not waiting weeks as your notes sometimes indicate, between postings. This may sound greedy, but I don't want to miss anything. So I would be very grateful if you would add me to your posting list. I have plans to open any of them until I reach that point in the story, so if you need to send me something I should read immedatly, please note so in the subject. I can not empahsize how much I enjoy these. As a DM and player for many years, many of the monsters and items you describe I am familar. Even more enjoyable are the mosters and Items that I've never had the pleasure of encountering. Please keep up the good work, Loyal Reader Rob Hey there. =) I've recently been reading through your Adventurers series thanks to a friend who had copies of the entire series, and I have to say I've been loving it! =) I've recently started playing AD&D again basically due to being inspired by your stories (hadn't played since the early 80s and 1st edition), and i've also got several of my friends reading the series, also. =) I'm not even up to Epic III as yet (reading through from episode 1 to the current stories is a bit of a slog), but I'm loving every minute of it. =) All I can say is that I hope you can manage to find the time and energy to keep up YOUR writing for a long time to come.. I know a lot of people who would be VERY dissappointed if (when?) the series finally finishes. =) Another thing (and don't have a cardiac arrest about this statement, it's not a "planning on using the characters for profit" thing here) is that I'me a cartoonist by trade, and I've been scrawling various pictures of the various Adventurers (based on the various descriptions and mental images I've been getting, anyway), and have actually drawn up the first episode in comic book form, basically just for my own amusement. If you'd be interested in seeing it sometime, let me know. =) Murray Great story line for Peldor, I liked how you had him use his intelligence and cunningness to rid Sharon Messandier of guildmistress of Greyhawk. I'm getting anxious to read about Mongo and Gorin it's been a while. On another note, Belphanior wants to get rid of or even with Orcus (everybody dose). What if someone (Belphanior) found Orcus's demon amulet that would enable him or the whole group to control the prince enough to make him vulnerable to attack or something else. Was just thinking, might make a good story or two. Ronald Hi Thomas, I must say I've enjoyed the recent Peldor saga immensely. Its always a treat to watch somebody show their true talents.... Sounds like the new Green Dragon will be the sight of many occasions... So when do we get our first bar fight ? Looking forward to the stories of Alindyar and Lyra. Wayne Hi Thomas - Just a quick note about Peldor's latest adventure. I really liked how you showed what a high level thief, with a lot of resources at his disposal, can do. In a situation that calls for sneaky work, and manipulating information, the thief can be more formidable than a high level wizard. It was a lot of fun to read! Ted It's nice with those neverending stories that actually never ENDS. The Peldor-business has been satisfactory reading so far.. next up? Hmm... anything will do for me :-) Actually, the reason why I bothered to mail (I'm one of your silent readers...) was your comments after episode 530. "I would like to lead an organisation like that." It suddenly struck me - read through the Dilbert comics for ideas? Dilberts author sure has done what you want to: Point out "stupid things at work"... -- H&L Hi, first let me congratulate you, as many others before me have, for having brought a new way of life to the roleplaying game. Then I would like to ask you how Alindyar and Ged got their incredibly high stats (20 in int for Alindyar and 20 in both int and wis for Ged). I remember somewhere in the early episodes that the players got hold of a Deck of Many Things and that Alindyar both lost all his magical items and got +1 int. But how about the 20 stats ?? Also, in the Lost Tales nr 5 (i think), you said they were looking for the Star Rune, but if I recall right, it was the Time Rune they were after ? GREAT WORK! Anders LOST TALES #15 hey, just a thought. Ged as presented in this ep. seems very akin to Charles Winchester from M*A*S*H... ben Nice work. I just got back into playing AD&D with a few other theater friends, and I was scouting around looking for, well, a refresher course. I've been reading the back adventures on my lunch breaks, and would like to get 'em as they come. Thanks! Janean TM: I really enjoyed the Peldor story arc. Really showed what he is made of and what he is capable of when he puts his mind to it. Can't wait to hear about Mongo again. He and Peldor are still my favorite characters. Oh yeah. I looked at your rants section and read your thoughts on ending the Adventurers. Bet you got a lot of mail on this. My vote: Don't end it! later, Joe 532 & lost 16 Enjoyed #532. Can't wait to really get into the Mongo/Gorin arc. You brought up a good point on the dependence of characters and their magic items. I sometimes wonder how long Belph really would have lasted if he didn't have his "eye" or Blackrazor? Oh yeah, that was a good ending to the Belgar situation. later, Joe Thomas: Great, Absolutely Great. I loved the way Belgar ate it. A thought. Surely, Belphanoir and Otto cleaned out the business of anything valuable. You might want to have them getting rid of some of the spices or product (or giving to certain constables) in upcomming episodes. John Spice Girls? I'm not sure whether to laugh or groan, but quite punny. I noticed the tease for the next Lost Tales: Lyra and Zara and Tragidore. I just finished reading that part of the series and was immensely amused -- Tragidore was my first look at what's available for DMs, so I have a slight fondness for the skimpy little thing. Thanks again for the entertainment. Happy writing! Janean Nice story with this one. I have been hoping you would get around to tying up this loose end. Too bad Ged died or else he could have polymorphed him into a slug or something. But knowing Ged, he probably would have tried to forgive him or something. Marc For lack of a better start, hi, my name is Erik. I recently found out about your Adventurers stories, got to reading em, really liked em. Addictive, I suppose. Sat down last week, and just started reading almost non-stop. Loved the entire thing. Especially stuff like the trip to Earth, which was really funny, had me laughing really hard at some points. Another funny one was the awards ceremony, it was hilarious. The Orcus storyline through episode 500 was amazing. In my opinion, probably about the coolest one you've done so far. Belphanior and the Helgate crowd is pretty cool, too, probably my favorite of all of em. Dunno why... Had a question to ask of you, too. You talk about a mailing list you send the stories out in a number of spots. Any chance of me getting put on it? Anyway, thanks for listening and whatnot. ---Erik From owner-adv@smash.gatech.edu Tue Feb 24 13:40 EST 1998 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 13:33:37 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas Miller To: adv@smash.gatech.edu Subject: (non-story) some Adventurers Q & A Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-MD5: 0qzXba6h8GH717VmzUPqOg== X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I get a lot of good questions and suggestions, but once in a while, I get a bunch that are so good, I feel like copying my answers to hundreds of readers. This is one of those times. I've just been dealt some issues that pertain to the near and very far future of the Adventurers, and I hope you enjoy my answers. > It seems you are going to do the City of the Gods for Belphanior and > Company. Did you know that the city of the Gods was also in D.A.'s > First Fantasy Campaign? Did you know that it was a spaceship? Just > thought you might like to know. My version of the City is definitely sci-fi/futuristic, perhaps an ancient colony built by crashed spacemen. We will see soon, as Belphanior and friends explore robots, computers, and other things far beyond their level. > Future of The Adventurers: > > I have been wondering what your plans are for the adventurers. There > seems to be a lot to cover. The greyhawk war is a large task and with > the adventures spread out all over the place, you can cover the war from > many angles. I intend to. Everyone will have to deal with the Wars - Mongo will be fighting in them, Rillen will be hiding from them, Peldor will have to ponder what happens if the fighting reaches Greyhawk, as will Alindyar (but he will be tapped to help out with his magic!) and Belphanior may or may not get involved, depending on whether Helgate is in some army's path (hint hint) > Also, do you think the characters will change over time as well as the > dynamics of the relationships. Sometimes friends fall out with each > other only to be rediscovered later or perhaps not. I think having > internal conflict amongst the major players would add to the tension. > Belphanior having a problem with say Alindyar would add interesting > possibilities, a problem with Peldor would be stronger, but, harder to > believe if you want to restore the friendship. Another point along > similar lines, perhaps the splitting up of the group as a whole might > lead to some selfish traits appearing. Perhaps the fall from grace for > a character would be cool. Mongo might be the ideal for this due to the > influence of the Armor he wears. I have plans for some internal strife (recall that Mongo left in a fury at Belphanior, over the death of Ged) and perhaps even an affair by one of the "married" characters............. > Another Point I would like to make, what lasting traits of the > characters are going to survive? What effect will their existance have > upon the world? Some believe we live through our children and that > would be nice to see for some of the characters. Another way would be > how they change the lives of other around them. For example, Belphanior > could build a truly great city that survives for generations. The memory > of Ged may inspire an order of Paladins much to Peldor's distain. Etc. Children are on the way, and not just from one adventurer. Summation: I have plans for the Wars, for internal strife, and for children. I just need time to implement them properly. > What I hope to see before the series ends or transitions: These I can tackle one by one. > 1) The true story of Peldor and his origins. I thought you had > discussed having Peldor be a highlander style immortal or perhaps a god > of some sort. It would be nice to see one of these ideas through to > it's conclusion. I know the answer, but no one else will until the very end of the stories. Until then, speculation will just have to run wild. Sorry! > 2) Bring some large meaning to the death of Ged. Perhaps. I am not a big fan of bringing the dead back to life though - it's overused in comics these days. Clever readers may have gotten a hint of Ged in recent times though. > 3) The deaths of the original characters. How does each one meet > his/her end. This is a door I'm not sure I want to close anytime soon. I will give a vague, non-canon rough idea of what I'm thinking for each of them though: - Belphanior: violent end of some sort, perhaps chosen as a demigod of death by some dark power - Mongo: virtually unkillable despite centuries of adventure, risk, and combat, he lives to an old age, revered by generations of his offspring and kinfolk - Alindyar: achieves immortality through magic, has several kids, eventually retreats with Lyra to a place far beyond the realm of mortals - Rillen: ends up running a large school for martial artists, his and Songa's children carry on in his wake after he dies of old age - Peldor: > BTW, did you see the Replacement Killers? Danny Trejo plays one of > the Replacement Killers. Yes. In fact, I decided that enough was enough and made a Danny Trejo web page! http://www.gatech.edu/oit/oe/design/thomas/trejo/ tm Hello Thomas, it was somewhere in 1994 or so when I first found the Adventurers. Getting deeper into the stories, most episodes have become read many times. I've also recommended the stories to a vast number of my friends, and many are really hooked up on them nowadays. More concrete even, me being the administrator of the world's largest BBS, MBnet, I've been trying to keep our users up with your tales by uploading the newest episodes to our RPG area. It's been a pleasure to notice that your stories have steadily risen to be one of our most downloaded RPG files. Quite an accomplishment, taking into account that none of our users are native English speakers. I know you're getting a lot of feedback, but I'll add mine to it; thanks for the great stories! The development of the stories seems to have split my friends' interest in two; others find this politically active and large-scale style interesting, the others would prefer hack'n slash. Personally I've had the best reading experiences with episodes such as Peldor's plot against Sharyn, plans and details concerning the new inn of his etc... Of course, the Belphanior storyline has also waken up my interest. Power and organized leading is an interesting subject (in much more than just fictional way, though this doesn't concern Adventurers) to read about. Some thoughts about the future: The Mongo storyline with Greyspire is turning out to be more and more interesting. It will be interesting to see Mongo encounter the chain of command - and maybe fight his way up through it? Similar to the Greyhawk's Thieves Guild, the organizations' internal conflicts provide a juicy fruit that could be well used in forecoming stories. I was very delighted to see you having taken that idea already in this recent Q-A mail. Social crises and marriage thingys sound like a hook where several other new ideas for future plots could be attached. When I GM'd GURPS and ADD years ago, I teased my players by inserting even confusing amounts of loose ends to every human conflict, then picking up some old enemies and friends when everybody had already forgotten the whole thing. Don't miss the chance with them! Greyhawk wars sound like a major arc, which could easily span a completely different series of adventuring stories in a completely newbie profile. However, bringing Adventurers with their high levels into the war can certainly result in some damn good tales. I'm really looking forward to reading the products of your imagination. Just don't forget to add sufficient amounts of hints and descriptions about the world's situation to the stories, as many of us readers have no clue about Greyhawk geography, historical backgrounds and such. It's almost 5 years since I've last even seen the boxed set... ;-) A word about the length of the episodes: I think that each episode should span a logical component of the storyline. Although weekly schedule on the stories is good for the readers, I wonder if the stories are sometimes just cut short because of the lack of time? No problem to me, but personally I wouldn't be hurt by irregular episodes either. Having read an episode, I've sometimes wondered if the end was completely logical and proper. Well, maybe it's just me.. And after all, it's your style of writing. There's not much negative to say about the Adventurers nowadays. Right from the earliest days the stories have remained to be excellent entertainment, beating even the Bold and the Beautiful. ;-) Keep up the good work! Best regards, Jouni Greetings. I'd just like to thank you for the Adventurers series... it's great! I particularly liked Ged (arrogant bastard that he was), at least before Orcus rendered him "out of service"... A couple of things that come to mind... Shouldn't Ged's Glorious Identification be in the Arcanum? The quote, "All this wheeling and dealing about, why it isn't for money, it's for fun. Money is just the way we keep score." which you list have as having an unknown source should be attributed to the aristocrat/merchant/spy/thief Silk from David Eddings' Belgariad. Other than that, I just want to say keep up the good work! Nathan Just a quick note from a regular reader -- Good Job. No specific likes, no complaints, no suggestions. You do quite well. I look forward to Wednesday morning every week. James > Greetings. > I'm in the middle of rereading The Adventurers, and I have a few > questions... Good, I love answering questions! :) > 1) In episode 193, Halbarad claims that his facial scar came from "a > close encounter with an ogre king", but in Lost Tales 12, we see it > came from a fight with a human mercenary hired by Baron Zeno. What > gives? I forgot about that while writing lost tales #12. > 2) Was the Rune in the City of the Gods the Time Rune or the Star > Rune? You were initially calling the Time Rune, but then started > calling it the Star Rune... No idea. It should be the Time Rune. > 3) If Ged was "frozen" as a 14th level mage because of racial level > limits, how is it that Alindyar progressed past this point? I'm not sure, I will check the racial level limits. I think that if you're single-classed you can go a little higher. > 4) What *is* the wispy thing? The suspense is starting to kill me, > curse it... A future lost tale may or may not answer this question, but it will star the wispy thing. > 5) Did Ged ever enchant those beads he got at the Mardi Gras, or did > he never get around to it :^)? The latter. > 6) How precisely did the mechanics for Blackrazor's "soul-sucking" > work? It really isn't very well described in the Arcanum... What's in the arcanum is verbatim copied from the module where the sword appeared. What exactly do you want to know? If a being dies from the sword, its soul gets sucked and that's the end. > 7) Did the intimidation and persuasiveness effects from the > permenant potions have any specific effects or guidelines, or were > you just running them along the lines of "he is now more > intimidating/persuasive"? The latter. > 8) Actually, along the lines of 5), did any of the Adventurers ever > create a magical item, other than golems and "home defenses"? Don't think so. > 9) Is there anyplace where I can find the Aristobolus stories on the > 'net that you know of? Not that I know of. I just did a search via Yahoo and got nothing. > 10) Was the yellow eye that stopped Orcus in episode 525 the spirit > of Ged? The eye thing seems appropriate to Boccob, but I'd think > that if it were Boccob himself, the eye would be purple... Add to > that that the eye had some of Ged's speech mannerisms and that a > certain loyal servant of Boccob had recently been killed by Orcus' > excessive interference, and I get *very* suspicious... You're on the right track. I won't say for sure what's what because I prefer to let the readers make their own interpretations. However, the things you noticed were not coincidental. > Once again, I'd like to thank you for a *great* series of stories... > I'm looking forward to seeing how the whole business with Mongo's > army life turns out... Heck, I'm also looking forward to more > research and magical strangeness from everybody's favorite > supragenius drow... Thanks, and I'm glad you're enjoying them! > Nathan Thomas, I'm finally getting around to sending you a message. First, thanks for the great work you've been doing on "The Adventurers". I first stumbled across your works several years ago at school in Little Rock while roaming the internet. I quickly became engrossed in the quests the party undertook. Just as I was about to catch up to your more recent stories I found myself without internet access and had to remain content in reading earlier episodes again. Well, a few weeks ago I managed to secure me a new computer and am back online. One of the first things I did was to find your Adventurers site and then the episodes I had missed. They're only getting better if that is possible. The reason I'm sending this is to ask to be added to your subscription list. I have also enjoyed your other stories I have run across, such as your Star Frontier's stories and Mardi Gras stories so anything would be appreciated. Thank you and keep up the great work, Ronnie Hullo, Welp, I just wanted to be added to your mailing list...And I want to say that you're writings have been very entertaining...Oh yeah, nice movie reviews on your page.Though you were being a little too nice on some of those reviews aka Spawn. Here are some movies I loved which I think you should try watching: Resevoir Dogs (Tarantino), The Professional, and Silverado. They're fairly old, but they're badass. Anyways, thanks and keep up the good work... Lewis Dear Mr. Miller, Just a quick note to you. No need to reply. I'd just like to take the time out to say that I really enjoy your series. A relative newcomer, I subscribed at issue #504 and I've been hooked ever since. Thanks and keep up the great work. I sometimes wonder how you find time to do it; but I'm glad you do. Yours, -- Joe Another good story. I'm constantly surprised at how much I look forward to receiving the latest installment from the Adventurers. Its interesting to see you lay the groundwork for Mongo to be knocked down a peg or two. I assume that his hubris will be his near undoing, teaching him a valuable lesson in the importance of his comrades in arms in the mass combat scenario. Are you also laying the groundwork for a split by Gorin? Because of their lifespans, I assume that dwarves are more patient and willing to wait a couple of years before making changes. Gorin, however, seems unhappy and I can't imagine him staying at Greyspire for long. One final thought: Mongo was very willing to defer to the authority and expertise of Yod. Why is he being so upity now with Noggin? Jim Hi Thomas - Just a quick note from one of your fans. This looks like a fairly simply, enjoyable (for the readers) adventure for Mongo and Gorin. It's good to see them learning how they fit in with an established company. Also, Gorin's private thoughts are interesting to follow. I can identify with him! I always look forward to Wednesdays! Ted Greetings. Another question comes to mind... How did Ged restore his selection of mage spells after his spellbooks were destroyed in episode 299? Obviously he did, but I don't think you ever mentioned it. Also, what *is* Ged's full name (which I am *certain* that you never quite got around to letting us know...)? I continue to eagerly anticipate Wednesdays... heck, I'm waiting for the day the mad elf Belphanior's luck runs out :^). I know in my bones it has to come someday... although I must admit you had me fooled the first time I read the first part of the Torin arc... I thought that his day *had* come... Nathan > other dwarven soldier: Nervous, eh? > Mongo: Hell, no! I want to fight! I want to smash! I've been > cooped up for too long. Having just finished reading through a whole pile of Civil War histories (Bruce Catton's, mostly--highly recommended), I laughed at this one. Mongo as General Phil Sheridan...hey, it works for me. He's got the height, he's got the "smash 'em up!" philosophy, he's got the ego (and good reason to have it, too). He even has Sheridan's lust for glory and for command. Maybe (since he won't or can't stop being insubordinate to Noggin) you should have him end up in command of the shock troops; the mobile, hard-hitting, wildly destructive soldiers. After all, it worked for Sheridan. Ryan > Initially, > this lost tale was supposed to detail Tanya's past, but I didn't > want to get into that - I'm not a big fan of slavery, especially > in the case of women, and I just didn't feel like doing that > story. I probably never will. IMHO, I think you should give it a shot. Tanya is an interesting character that we've never really been able to see except for being in the shadow of the principal characters. While slavery may be a difficult topic for you to write about, it's a good opportunity to stretch yourself as a writer. If worse comes to worse, it doesn't *have* to be written with an emphasis on the dynamics of slavery. At any rate, it would be an interesting piece to try, I would think. - Brett > This was an unusual format to use for a story - I came closest > to it with the Ged lost tale - but it seemed right. Initially, > this lost tale was supposed to detail Tanya's past, but I didn't > want to get into that - I'm not a big fan of slavery, especially > in the case of women, and I just didn't feel like doing that > story. I probably never will. Then perhaps the story needs to be told in a different format. You do not have to be a fan of slavery for it to be told. Have Tanya tell it to Peldor (and/or someone else that she trusts). How was the experience from her point of view? Become her. Live the nightmare within yourself. Then tell the story. -- Lucius Thomas: I remember you were asking for some new undead a while back. Sorry but I just ran into this and thought you would like to take a look Go to http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Arena/9397/rpglibrary.html There is an undead download you might find interesting. I have not looked at it but it is a netbook so should be interesting. John Dear Thomas, It's 0250 today (7/4/98) and I'm at work -- I work in Intensive Care as a junior doctor at the moment. I'm in the process of re-reading the whole series and have gotten to 408. In re-reading these, especially the shapeshifters arc, I truly realised what wonderful fiction this is. I know it's not at the philosophical level that say Tracy Hickman and Margaret Weis wrote the Dragonlance series, but how old are you? 28-29? They're both in their forties or so! I'm sure that you could well produce that kind of stuff given the appropriate milleu (novel format and writing as a full-time job) but I expect that that's not what you are trying for here anyway. Peldor had always been my favourite character and to an extent I agree with the comments that his maturing has blunted his old character. In my opinion this is not a bad thing. The �ego that walks� kind of stuff is now the r�le of Bosco (yeah Bosco -- you crack me up!) and Peldor has, to an extent, moved on. The new Peldor is often much sadder and grimmer; he shows anger and concern for others. He is no longer a charactiture (?sp). Peldor is more effective in his new form except for one thing -- he keeps fighting frontal battles rather than use his truly mighty backstab. I have found this tactic to dramatically reduce the life expectancy of my thief characters. I 'spose this is to an extent dictated by the nature of the battle however. I'm curious to see what his new sword does aside from shattering non-artifact swords though. (Admittedly weapon breaking is a pretty good power for a sword.) The whole reason I'm writing this Email at work is that I have been converting the books to a format I can read on my PalmPilot (1Mb memory - 300K per book -> 2 books plus the other stuff I keep on the Pilot). This is a great thing as it frees me from the computer screen and gives me something to do in the slow parts of a night shift. Mind you, the ASCII maps get pretty distorted. Anyway, Thank You for the stories -- I really continue to enjoy them. Regards, Jarret Hello TM, Just came back to varsity after a long weekend and read the rest of the stories up to 125. As you said, many more to go. I must congratulate ( spelling?? ) you on a job well done indeed. I'm looking forward to the rest of the stories. Regards L-C Marais I have just recently started reading the adventures. I started with #1 3weeks ago and I am only on #43!!!! They are really great.... Cant wait to read more!!!! Griff Hello there! Though this is the first time you hear from me, I've been a big fan of your work since '94 due to the Walnut Creek GigaGames CD-ROM.. ;-) From that I got the first 107 episodes, and had read them over the years four times through, until finally a month ago I got Internet access for the first time. I've just read through the whole Adventurer's Saga up to this day (took me about 3,5 weeks, full-time reading) and I just have to applaud your work! Superb, smashing, brilliant and captivating! I envied the readers that got to give feedback and make small(albeit important) suggestions that evolved the story further. Just wish I could have been there too... But better late than never! Now that I've catched up with the story line, I'm facing the problem what I think several of your fans have... the suspension of having to wait for the next episode to come out! Just having read over 530 episodes in a space of less than four weeks didn't prepare me for this suspense, the stories were seemingly endless and there was always another one to read. What happy four weeks they were... Now the suspense is killing me! Argh! What will happen in Helgate?! :-) Timo 19/04/98 A-W-E-S-O-M-E. Well. Actually, I don�t know what I can say. I�ve read all the 539 episodes of the � Adventurers � in a row, together with the 19 � Lost stories �. And there is a single word I can think of : M-A-R-V-E-L-O-U-S . I�ve never read any story relating to an ADD party as good as the one you are actually writing. I discovered it on a anonymous web site, an I downloaded 525 episodes Immediately. It took me nearly a week to read them all, but finally, I�ve done it. And I liked everything of it. It�s been 6 years and a half since you started writing stories about the party, and all the characters have acquired a soul and a history, either through flashback or Lost stories. At the end of the 19th number of the lost stories, you said that you did not know what you�d do with the last two of them. I�ve got a suggestion : the life of Ys, and the origins of Stormcrest. Another thing that I have noticed, is that Mongo has never fallen prey to the curse of the invulnerable coat of Arnd ( The one described in the � book of artefacts � , at least ) . Anyway, I�m really looking forward to another 500 parts of the adventurers. I�m especially looking forward to the day when Aliyndar will advance to 18th level. This day, we�ll sure see some awesome magic unleashed. I�ve actually so many thing to tell you, that I don�t recall half of them ! Anyway, It�s not the last time I�m writing you with congratulations. If you are going to make another survey with the nationality of your readers, I�ll tell you that I�m Belgian ( See ? Even In Europe your genius is known to all ! ) . I don�t know if the � Adventurers � will continue to go on for much time, but even if they don�t, they�d still gave me much joy while I was reading them. Anyway, Even if they end, I hope you will start another tale with another group of adventurers. Oh, yes. By the way, I�d really like to be added to your mailing list. My email is : Mdujardi@club-internet.fr . Long life to you, Oh Thomas Miller. May the force be with you ! Bye. Max >City of Gods Heh. Heh. Heh. This is going to be interesting. By the way, the most recent issue of Journal of Greyhawk (#6, available at "http://www.empnet.com/cog/", I think) contained a chronicling of Gygax & Rob wossname adventuring at that place. Might be of interest; and I'm sorry if you already knew that and I'm wasting your time. Oh, and since I haven't done so in a long, long time, I would like to point out how great these are - made even better by the strong sense of continuity. Keep up the good work! Since you have yet to reach the Wars, I suspect TSR's re-release of GH might not affect you much, at least for some time to come; I'd be surprised if they didn't continue the timeline. --- Ronny Thomas... AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Man am I ever excited about reading the next few postings from you.... Great work.....how did you ever get it done with all the Sports going on this time of the year? Hockey, Basketball, Baseball, and the DRAFT! as well... GO Texas Rangers!! Hmm..And the Dallas Stars....What the hell..Houstan Rockets as well Regards, Joe Tomas, First a few kudos. I've been following the adventurers since about 1992/3 (somewhere roundabout then at least) and I'm stilling reading them. The story is good fun, and varies between fun/light hearted and serious - nice mind candy. I enjoy them, and want to read the back story again - but there seems to be something wrong with the book zip formats. I've tried downloading several of the books, including the 000-500 tome but they don't unzip correctly - not with winzip, not with gunzip for dos. Would it be possible to somewhere store in standard zip format (pkzip/winzip) the books? I really don't want to have to download 500 files :( (note the 000_500 book of 3Mb size gunzip'd to a 128Kb file full of garbage... I did download using binary) One other thing: an idea for a possible story (As if you didn't have enough already :) From the perspective of the "Villain" - perhaps from Xusia the Lich's viewpoint. COuld be interesting. Andrew I sense the start of a grand adventure! I was wondering why Belph didn't attempt to contact Halbarad, Peyote, or Rob. Besides the obvious alignment issues. Especially given the fact the Halbarad and Peyote are 2 that have actually been there before. On this type of mission, hands-on experience could prove to be very useful. Oh well, the group is multi-talented enough without them. I was also hoping that you could have found a reason for Peldor to go also. But I guess he now has too many reasons not to go on adventures like this. later, Joe Just a quick message to say that I really enjoy these adventures. I started at the begining and I am now in the 120's. Cant wait to find out why Belphanior's replaced his eye!!!!! Also, are the lastest stories from recent adventures? Thanks for your time, and keep up the good writing!!! Griff. Lost Tales #21 This was one of your best Lost Tales. I'm in the same boat as you (a long time player) and I can honestly remember every single battle I have ever fought with a dragon. This was so interested because you actually role-played it. It is so much more fun when you add in the element of chance. I doubt you roll out the other scenario (such as Belphanoir's encounters with the lich and his minions). But it really adds something to the story because I can tell your party was doing everything in its power to keep from getting whacked by one of the most powerful creatures in ad&d. And if these were real people up against something like a dragon, they would have to use unconventional ways to kill such a beast because quite frankly a dragon has seen it all. I'm sure it would have seen countless fools march right in through the front door. It the ones that have their wizard create an illusion of the party walking in the front door while they wait in the shadows that walk home with the treasure hoarde. Excellent tale. ...Eric 542 HAHAHAHAHA, Very nice job ending that one!!! You know I think your stories are still getting better. Greg Thomas, This is the best news I've heard in a long time. I have been longing to see these accessories ever since you initially mentioned them. Do you have any idea when these might come out? Probably after 6/99 when you stop the adventurers, right? Anyway, good luck with softball. How long have you been taking creatine? Have you had any side affects? I had thought about starting to take it, but I heard that there were some side effects like diareah and headaches. Have you had any problems with it? A devoted reader, Arcane Thank you for continuing to write the Adventurers: every Wednesday is welcome. I was just rereading the Necros saga when I spotted this: Peldor: Beats me. Given her reaction to Mongo's little speech, I think it's safe to say that we didn't destroy her cult, or level her city... Given the recent Lost Tales, I couldn't help but chuckle. The current saga: I'm surprised Belphanior didn't invite Halbarad or Arnold. Further, it occurs to me that Bosco still has a Wish left, and if in serious trouble, might say, "I wish Mongo were here." The fall-out from that at Greyspire might be interesting. Greyhawk Wars: I actually think that you should skip them and do a series of scenes a la Lost Tales. This is because GW as in the source is merely round one. You could use this as foreshadowing for The Big One. I'd like to see Peyote, Halbarad, and Rob back in action: it would make a big change, perhaps lending itself to a more High Fantasy style of adventure, especially if Sir Drexel were to be involved. Keep up the good work. qts Hi Thomas, Firstly I would be exceedingly grateful if you would add me to the mailing list for the adventurers series. With that out of the way i would like to confer my heartfelt gratitude to you for entertaining me for most of my reading time over the last 6~8 weeks, i have enjoyed your series tremendously. Often when recommending friends to a 'canon' of work, where a large amount of text has been written in which they can involve themselves i feel a twinge of jealousy, but for once upon discovering your stories i was the lucky recipient of such a treasure trove. Alas, now like your other fans i must wait from week to week to hear of the continuing trials and tribulations of Peldor, Bosco, Mongo et al. I have often felt in AD&D people found higher level characters frustrating as the challenges of dungeon delving seemed trivial, your ideas and situations have shown the way that a good campaign could blossom. I must admit my favourite character by far is Peldor and i can only wait with anticipation to see what will happen to him in the coming years and was very pleased that he has build the Green Dragon Inn again, he unlike others has not the same amount of powers or magic items but surely has one of the best developed characters without the need to fall into classical stereotypes, by this i mean no criticism, but it is surely easier to develop epic characters such as Belphanor and Mongo than Peldor, *shrug*, but then again i haven't tried, so i don't really know. Anyway to bring things to a close, i look forward to your mailing list mails arriving in my account (gmccarroll@radius-retail.com) and if you are every in Edinburgh feel free to contact me or even to stay with me and I will show you my gratitude for such an entertaining series of stories. In the coming weeks I am sure my mind will come up with many ideas and what if scenarios that I will send to you - but for now; Thanks, Greg 543 TM: WOW! What an episode! It's been too long (at least it seems that way) since there's been a good battle like this one. Can't wait until they get into the city. later, Joe Sweet. Very sweet. This was my first introduction to Cynder, so it took me completely by surprise. What a great villan! JJ I've been considering your Adventurers survey and feel more detailed feedback is in order. First off, if you're bored with The Adventurers, then stop and move on to something else. Secondly, I'll state that I continue to enjoy your tales, and would be most disappointed to see you stop. However, your comments indicate that you feel you're stuck in a rut rather than bored. And Belphanior and co do seem to be the focal point these days. I would suggest two options: 1 - Make things more mystical. Have Belphanior and Mongo get more involved with Deities. Belphanior has already attracted the attention of Orcus, but Iuz, Hadeus and (especially) Ygorl, who in a campaign long ago I made the creator of Blackrazor, are other prime parties. He might even attract a Good patron. Mongo is just about the most powerful dwarven warrior on Oerth - he is toting TWO artifacts after all. Perhaps Lord Marcus gets asked to clear out The Temple of Elemental Evil, precipitating a meeting with St Cuthbert. 2 - Change focus. Concentrate on Rob, Peyote, Halbarad, and Mongo for a little while. It would be interesting to see Peyote's rise to Hierophant, and while you've portrayed Rob as *relatively* goofy, to have risen as he has, he must be a major ass-kicker in his own right, so a series with him in the spotlight would be interesting. I've suggested this change before, as a High Fantasy alternative, but it need not have a HF tone. >From (2) depends an interesting plot. Let us suppose Rob is in Helgate. Rob, Belphanior, Victoria, and others are fighting a horde of undead. All are wounded; Rob then casts Sunray, which annihilates Victoria. How would Belphanior react? Who would take advantage of it? Suppose at that point Alindyar could cast Wish and Belphanior prevailed upon him to cast one; would Victoria return as a mortal? Oh yes, I would still like to see Mongo go toe-to-toe with the Iron Dwarf on the seabed. qts Thomas, Two brilliant stories. I was utterly spellbound and now really look forward to the coming episodes. I hope they will be long and detailed and that the Hellgate inhabitants put up a good fight (perhaps take out an enemy or two (or three, four, ... !8^) Thanks. Philip lost tales 23 This was the most entertaining thing I've read in a long time. The idea of a being that exists solely to satisfy its own curiousity, having (virtually) no way to interfere in the events it observes is a *very* good one; it makes the wisp an understandable (yet very alien in its motivations) creature. I noticed, though, that the things you mentioned as being noteworthy for the wisp were also noteworthy for the people actually engaged in the events. I suppose that means the wisp's idea of an "interesting" event is largely the same as a being of human-like intelligence... which could simply be the result of having been created by an entity that thinks at least vaguely like humans do. -- Rob Well that pretty well sums things up for the wispy thing, pity, I was kind of hoping it was a guardian spirit for one of the good god's keeping an eye on Belphanior.. because of his use of the 'eye' and now because of enemy's he's made.. Kerry Greetings Thomas! You probably get lots of mail, so I'll make it short... I've been reading The Adventurers almost since the 1st chapter up to someplace in the 270s I think... I lost count. It was somewhere back in 1991, I think; I've read most of it straight from the newsgroup, and awaited each chapter. Hey, I even got used to the baseball remarks at the end, and I wouldn't have known what Mardi Gras is if it wasn't for this series :) (I am, after, all, from Israel...) Well, I said "short." Ahem. Anyway, I was exteremely happy to see you have a website, and that now I can continue reading, and you go on writing (right? right?) these stories I've grown to like so much. From reading rec.games.frp on a TVI925 to a Netscape webpage, you're still one of the best for me. Cheers! MarK. Oh, and Peldor rocks! Yo! Heck, what can one say? You've been writing for over seven years, and your stories and style are only getting better with time! Hell, I've been reading 550 Adventurers episodes in one month ( after discovering them on a website I forgot ) and they are all great! I especially enjoy Helgate's storyline ( When will Aja get her temple built? ) . That's it. You got your share of compliments for today! :-) The only thing I really regret is the death of Ged. I still don't understand why he died.... But I heve to leave you! Know thee, that your stories and wisdom even reached far-away France. Bye Bye!!!!!!! The Duke of the skies, aka Max Hi !!!!!! I have just finished reading your entire work - its astonishing!!!!!!!!! Writing all this just for the people to read, not for money - this is really great, and I want to thank you for many joyful hours that I spent reading your tales. Before I have read your stories, I had known very little about AD&D in general, so it was very pleasent to learn something knew. In my opinion, the best stories are the first 150, where the original adventures are shown, but some of the later stuff is very good too, especially the Orcus storyline. When I read it, it felt like some real high-class fantasy book, and I am a hard-core fantasy fan. By the way, if you are a fantasy fan as well, I would recommend you to try a russian writer - Nick Perumov. I think, some of his book were already translated into English. He tried to continue the Lord of the Ring in his "Spear of darkness", and, by gods, he succeeded. So try this book out, if you find it, I promise, you won't regret it. Thank you again and keep it up!!! Michael 548 Great to finally see some strong opponents!!! I was a little disappointed that you didn't kill Razor Charlie or Skektek.... or at least do a lot more harm than just breaking Skektek's hands. It just seemed strange that Omak would change his mind for no aparent reason... and to me losing a semi-major character is just a lot more satisfying since it really shows the dynamics of the real world and that just because a character is somewhat major does not preclude that (s)he might die. Currently, since we know they're not going to die, there's less tension since we only have to think about how they'll get out of the current situation, since it's a given that they will survive. All IMHO of course :) Otherwise, great story as always! -Sofus hey Thomas, two small comments: 1) i liked the additions to the Razor Charlie fight, but he still went down waaay too easily. :) and i think Skektek should have used one more trick before Omak said "check for more magic items..." but, oh well, it's too late now... 2) that list of geographics in the survey was truly amazing! have fun, matt Hey there, I thought I would finally write in, as I had been reading the Adventurers for quite some time. (Just finished #539 from Shobaki's site) I truly love it. Your stories are wonderful. :) I would have written earlier, but I wasn't sure on whether the older ones would have an inaccurate e-mail or not. These stories helped inspire me in my own role-playing endevors. I've been trying to get my own system and world for role playing (only a fraction of which is done--it's hard work! :) and your stories have helped me get the energy and creativity to write some. I did have an RPG on IRC, but that sorta went down (a bad habit...I've done 4 IRC RPGs and none of them got finished yet. Kinda like any of my story writing attempts. Grumble.) I love the characters. I don't know if I have an absolute favorite...Peldor and Alindyar strike high on my list (along with Bosco, Tanya, and Lyra. :) And I really could feel for the characters. For example, and I'm sure you've heard it pretty often, I was shedding tears while reading the story on Ged's funeral. I had often wanted to write in and give my opinions. But I wanted to read up to present first. There are so many places I'd've commented on, that I've forgotten most of them. :P Hmm, but now that I write, something pops into my mind.... Let's see. When was that? Yes, here it is. 3-22-98. I had a dream, in which were some of the Adventurers. I won't get into rediculous detail (I doubt you're _that_ interested :) but I'll say it was very strange. I had just started getting back into Adventurers (my reading was at a lull, as I was hosting my most recent RPG, but it was going slow, so I started reading for some inspiration). I wrote some stuff in a file here....let's see. Some of the party (I could sense, in particular, Alindyar, Lyra, Ged, maybe Bosco, and though I didn't 'see' them, I could feel Peldor and Belphanoir as well) were there, trying to escape...apparently some people deemed them nuts and wanted to toss them in a mental institution. I don't remember alot about that, except I helped them get to a really small box, which seemed to be a portal. Lyra was complaining because she couldn't take all of her paintings along...it seemed like she painted them. I wanted to go with them, but the portal's stability decreased as more people entered, so I couldn't. That's a jumble, I guess. Don't ask me, I don't get it either. :) The odd thing is, I already knew Ged died in the Abyss. There's a bit more, but I babble as it is... At any rate, keep up the great work. I'd write more, but I have to wander off and fix a computer complaint. Naturally, it's a Packard Bell. Maybe I'll end up writing again. Take care! :) James Hi Thomas, Hey, you sounded a little bummed about the smaller numbers of responses to your poll . Well, don't sweat it !! You're doing a great job, and honestly its hard to get some people to participate in things like that ....especially people spread out all over the world etc... You deserve credit for having established such a good and widely spread group of readers !! Cudos !! As to the stories ....as I wrote before ....the writer crafts the stories !! If you wrote on another group or with a different protagonist etc ...the stories would still be good because you are still telling the Tales !! I for one still enjoy The Adventurers ..but , heading into 600 episodes I bet you can get a craving for something "new" . Anyway, I enjoy very much being on the mailing list and following your stories !! Please keep the creative juices flowing and the stories a'rollin !! Thanks ! -C H i!!!!! The last story is GREAT. I was already a little tired of continuing wins of the Adventurers. It was about time for them to loose some fight. Hey, what about using the items from Earth in the next stories? I mean, a spell is a spell, but a man with a gun is a man with the gun. Thanks for the story again Michael Hello Thomas! I discovered your stories a few months ago, and since have been hooked. I've been caught up to where you are for quite some time, though this is the first time I ever wrote you. Other than to answer the survey, that is. This mail concerns mostly the stories in general. I couldn't help commenting on a few issues. I'm sorry, this is quite long, but I hope you find time to read the whole thing. My one comment that has anything to do with episode 548 in particular: What the hell are Victoria's stats? During the "battle" with the attacking party, she attacks a couple times with her sword, energy drains a few people, and then teleports off with one of them, all before any of them can do a thing to her. Okay, some were occupised with Razor Charlie, but come on! HOW?! How many attacks does that girl get per turn? Or have you stopped using the AD&D rules altogether? Just wondering. If Victoria can do that, then I hope Belph isn't the macho type, and doesn't mind his girl friend being able to kick his ass. 8^) Now, I was reading the "sneak previews" section, and happened to come upon the words "...and for one, death is the only way out," for a couple episodes from now. Damn! Why?! I'm not asking why is someone going to die, I'm asking why did I have to read that huge spoiler! I don't know what you intend the sneak priviews for, but I read them because I can't get enough of the adventurers, and want to get a general idea of what's coming up. Things like, "In this episode, the Adventurers are going to fight the guardian from the city of Gods," are fine. It gives a very general idea of what's to come, but doesn't spoil anything. It's like, if you see your friend reading a book, and ask him what it's about, you usually expect him to give you only certain information. Not give away any key plot elements or anything, in case you want to read it. A little prior information doesn't hurt. However, theres a fine line between a little prior information and a spoiler. First of all, I love the fact that you're willing to kill characters off permanently. It adds some dynamism to the series, and it makes it feel more real. The adventurers live extremely dangerous lives, and it's a miricle that they aren't all dead by now. Not to mention, that a story is supposed to provoke an emotional respose, and a death of a character is a sure way to do that. We get to know these characters, and like them, and when they die we get upset. It's like our own loved one died. However, Part of that whole effect is diminished when we know it beforehand. When a character dies, I should be thinking "Oh my God! He/she is really dead! What a shock!" When I'm prepared for it, it's no longer a shock, just sort of a dull sadness. Like the differance between your aging granny passing away in her sleep one night, and your brother suddenly dying in a car accident. You're still sad, but you've already had a chance to deal with the inevitable loss, and somehow it's not nearly as emotionally powerful. When I know beforehand that one of the characters is going to die, and it's just a matter of who, a whole lot of the effect is lost. As it is, I've already accepted the loss of one of the characters, and when I read it I'll just think "Oh. So that's who it is. Oh well," If you intend the sneak previews section to contain huge spoilers, I guess I'll have to prevent myself from reading it. I also suggest you put a warning saying "Do not read this section unless you want to spoil future episodes for yourself!" However, when Ged died, I read about it beforehand in the stories themselves. It would have had so much more effect if we hadn't known. Instead of getting mail about "I think you made the right choice picking Ged to die, blah blah blah..." you should have gotten mail about "Oh my God! I can't beleive you killed Ged! Blah blah blah..." The fact is, everyone knew it was going to happen to someone beforehand, and so it wasn't nearly the major event it should have been. Now I see that the same thing is going to happen again in a couple episodes. I just wish I had been surprised this time. Advertising the coming of a major event, such as the death of the character, is usually done on TV shows to boost the ratings. People want to see the "biggest show of the season", so they watch that episode. However, this doesn't make sense with the adventurers. They're free, so no one is going to stop reading unless they get so terrible it's not even worth it to download them. And it's not like people can "miss" them, like a TV show, so you don't have to warn us to "make sure to catch the next episode of The Adventurers." And if they're reading it, they've already been introduced to the series, so you can't possibly get any new readers. Giving away spoilers seves no purpose here. The point is, that if you really must put up big spoilers like that, then at least give a warning for people who don't want to read them. I'm sure your fans would be much happier if they could be surprised. Or, preferrably, don't put them up at all. Phew, that was long. By the way, there are big events you can do other than deaths. Other major changes in a character's life. Like, for instance, an announcement that one of the females is pregnant! *hint* *hint* *nudge* *nudge* *wink* *wink *wink* > General observations on the other questions: it seems that a lot >of people would indeed mind if I stopped writing the Adventurers, >no matter what I produced in its stead. A number of others said that >they wouldn't mind as long as I was doing something equally readable. >Some said that I should take a break (or stop for good) if I was >burned out. I like the pause idea better - I could write something >else for a while. Don't know, I need to get to 600 first. Thomas, Thomas, Thomas. I don't think you knew what you were getting into when you started writing these stories. For a series like the Adventerers, there can never be any closure. It's not like they're a novel. You see, when you write a novel, it's about some events that happen. When the events are all over, the story is over, and you have closure. However, the Adventurers are not a novel, they are an ongoing universe. You say "Episode 600 would be a good time to stop." I'm afraid that there may be no good time to stop. No matter how much closure you try to put in, they will never be over. The Adventurers are not about events. They are about characters. Things happen to the characters, and then when those things are finished happening, more things happen. Life goes on. You could continue writing the Adventurers forever. The Adventurers are not novel-like. They are comic book like. Consider a popular comic book. Say, the X-Men. Do you ever think they'll stop writing X-Men comics? Hell no! Not unless it becomes so unpopular that no one even notices when it goes. Even if Marvel went and summed up every loose end having to do with the X-Men, and then killed all the characters off, they could not stop the series. Millions of people would write in asking to have the X-Men revived and the series brought back. You can't pull the plug on a whole universe, no matter how well it's all summed up. Of coarse, the X-Men are different than the Adventurers in a couple ways. 1) The X-Men has been written by many different people over the years. 2) Marvel makes $$MONEY$$ off the X-Men. The Adventurers are written by one person, for free. Too bad for you. You created a phemenon, and now you can never stop it. 8^) Personally, I have no doubt that whatever you wrote would be as good as the Adventurers. Maybe even better, since you wouldn't have the limitations of the AD&D system. However, I would still be devastated to see The Adventurers go. There are so many questions left unanswered. So many tales left to tell. Obviously, you have to stop at some point. Maybe they will gradually start to lose popularity, and then when it becomes clear that it's time to put them to an end, you can have one final climactic event, and end the series for good. However, if you keep writing do damn well, they will never lose popularity. Hey, theres your solution! Start getting people to hate the stories! 8^) Seriously, though. It's up to your to decide how you are finally going to end them. Hopefully not by just stopping in a random location, with no sense of closure whatsoever. And hopefully, it will be a long time from now when you stop. Of coarse, if you really must stop soon, I have faith in you that you'll do it in a classy way. Like I said, I'll miss them greatly, but I have no right to complain if you stop doing something which you're doing for free. As for taking a break and writing something else for a while, that sounds much more bearable. BEWARE, though! You don't want to have to get stuck writing two series! If you write something else, and people like it, will they let you stop and go back to the Adventuers? Here's a tip: if you write something else, and intend to stop, make it novel like. The differances are this: Comic book like stories are about the characters. They follow one character or one set of characters throughout life. They have no end. The events are just there so that things can happen to the characters. These are set up from the beginning so that things can keep happening to the character(s) after the first storyline is over. Authors of these stories usually don't know how things are going to eventually turn out. Novel like stories are about the events. They start at the beginning, and end when the events they are about are complete. The characters are just there so that someone can participate in the events. These are set up from the beginning so that there will be a sense of closure when the events in the story have reached completion. Authors of these stories always know how things will eventually turn out. For instance, those "rogue squad" stories you started are most certainly comic book like. They are setting up a team of characters, who can be sent on missions, thereby creating infinite storylines. If you only wrote up their first mission, and the stopped, people would start asking "What happens next?" On the other hand, if you set up the situation for a series of events to happen, and then brought a team of heroes together for the specific purpose of dealing with this one situation, it would be novel like. Both of the above could be very similar stories, but subtle differances in how they are written can make all the differance. Which you choose depends on how long you want to keep writing. Note that it is much easier to continue a novel like story than it is to stop a comic book like one. Anyway, I look forward to reading whatever you decide to write. Even if I would prefer The Adventurers over anything else. Your new but devoted fan, Jacob Hmm. I like the adventure. I have only one thing to say though.... Razor Charlie should have died for the situation that he was in. The leader had already stated that they only needed one hostage. I like Razor Charlie alot and all but were-beasts usually do not have a lot of control and Razor had already pissed him off by stabbing him. Skektek i could understand ... the hostage.. but they were already looking around for more hostages.. why keep one as dangerous as Charlie already was shown to be. Thats my say for that .... otherwise its going to be a colossal fight. Steve Hi Thomas, Hey, you sounded a little bummed about the smaller numbers of responses to your poll . Well, don't sweat it !! You're doing a great job, and honestly its hard to get some people to participate in things like that ....especially people spread out all over the world etc... You deserve credit for having established such a good and widely spread group of readers !! Cudos !! As to the stories ....as I wrote before ....the writer crafts the stories !! If you wrote on another group or with a different protagonist etc ...the stories would still be good because you are still telling the Tales !! I for one still enjoy The Adventurers ..but , heading into 600 episodes I bet you can get a craving for something "new" . Anyway, I enjoy very much being on the mailing list and following your stories !! Please keep the creative juices flowing and the stories a'rollin !! Thanks ! -C Schroeder Just perfect! I hope you're going to have Mongo redeem the ID. Hmmm... you may recall that very early on Mongo released the spirit of a dwarven warrior. Just suppose it was one of Malgorth's failures... qts Hello Again! I know I'm quite a bother, but I just can't help re-reading again and again your marvelous stories. I'm writing your for three things: 1. Ever thought about the invulnerable coat of Arnd Artifact possession? You know, it turns the wearer into a 14th level human priest when he sees poor or diseased people ( saving throw vs poison allowed ) . It would be REALLY fun to see Mongo as a high priest... :-) 2. Perhaps I missed something, but I can't get to remember the slaying of the lich that Oakly Greenleaf asked peyote and co. to take care off... Am I right? 3.Last but not least, on the previews for the 550th episode of the adventurers, you say that " death is the only way out " for one of the adventurers... I just HOPE I haven't got it right, and that you aren't planning to take out Ys. I really HOPE so. Bye. P.S. : The short imaginary ( I hope so ) story you wrote when your car's radio got stolen was fantastic!!!! :-) Max 549 Hi Thomas, One possible reason for the departure of the city when it did: the repairs, going on at a low level via automated systems, were finally sufficiently complete to allow flight... Cheers, Roger I finished my Ph.D. and to celebrate I read everything in the archive up to #500. I came across your stories while randomly wandering the web. I played D&D back in the 70's when it was first put out in pamplet style books. What memories. I stopped in 83 but never stopped reading Fantasy and Sci-Fi. I enjoyed your stories and am in the process of downloading 501-550? today. james Howdy, Maybe the all-mighty Peldor reaches farther out than one would think. :) I was fiddling around in Infoseek and found this on a Deep Space Nine page: ...In a sacred vision, or 'Pah Tem Farh,' Sisko was at the eve of the Peldor Festival. He could hear 'them' ringing the temple chimes. He could smell the burning Bat'ereth leaves, and taste the incense on the wind.... Too bad I don't know more about it than that. But sorta interesting if you think about it.. :) James Hey, I loved the episode I honestly believe it was one of the best battles you have ever made, and I kept trying to find out who would die :) then I saw the notes :). If I think of any loose ends that you forgot I will give you a e-mail. Sincerely, MD Glad to see your latest work, quite good and I understand ideas may come to be hard at times to come by. Why not take 1 year off from writing adventurers and write something else that you feel you wnat to do :) After all we're the fans, you're the writer, we'll read whatever you write and we would hate to see you stop :) Keep up the good work REgards STefan Congrats on hitting 550. A monumental achievement. Pretty awesome I dare say. Best of luck on the next 50, Im looking forward to reading them. If you feel yourself burning out again, then maybe its time for a 1 or 2 month hiatus. You should continue to have fun with this stuff, not make it too much of a responsibility. Story idea. The next (and perhaps Final?) 50, should be one long story. Again encompassing all of the adventurers. But dont let them (the adventurers & audience know it.) Continue as you have, making small saga's for everyone, but have them all begin to tie together in some way. Some evil source behind the scenes is trying to do the classic power grab, all of oerth. Some in GreyHawk, some with Mongo's group, even have wierd things going on in the north with Rillen & Sonya. And now the evil force must be more than just your classic evil god/devil/demon, but an unsteady alliance unknown of, between more than one God/Demi-God. Its not something you have really done before, and that is, create an underlying layer of stories to the stories that you write. It may give you a little extra umph or juice to your desire to write. Furthermore you could have the appearance of appearance of Ged (not really him) being used as a pawn spreading false information to the adventurers in their dreams. (Just an idea.) Make it all culminate in #600. And don't let people know it is going to happen. Just set it all up. Anyway, congrats again on 550. I've thoroughly enjoyed your work over the years... -Josh Hi Thomas I liked episode 550, even though I'm not normally a fan of slug fests! I look forwards to the secret history of Ys to be revealed sometime in the future. Maybe if you are running low on ideas you could have the Hellgate Mob travel off to the world of the reptilians and help Ys sort out his apparent feud. (Maybe he is one of a dozen crown princes whom are all killing each other off, and being well educated Ys decided to give up his heritage and avoid fratricide.) That should fill a couple of stories! Pete Great episode! Right to the end I was afraid that you were going to kill off someone (of course, Jukotai is dead, but methinks Aja might succeed), or even end the Adventurers right there at 550. Idea: The Adventurers are a _majorly_ powerful band; this attack was really not all that intelligent of the Sea Princes (no matter how close it came to succeeding, it failed): Belphanior is obviously going to be upset, and the rest of them are not going to be too happy either. Bosco the untouchable wounded? Helgate invaded? Alindyar & Lyra assaulted? It seems to this reader that a campaign, the first in a long time, might be in order. The party did some not inconsiderable havoc-wreaking last time they visited the Sea Princes, but now they are mighty indeed. You could probably spend another 12 episodes on the campaign. Of course, other states might not be too pleased that the party is upsetting the balance of power. Or they might see an opportunity... I understand you being tired out from the series. It has gone a long time. Perhaps write one or two great story-arcs, then end it on a 'they all lived happily ever after' note; you could fast-forward in time: Peldor & Tanya with grandchildren (will we ever know the mystery of Peldor?); Belphanior & Victoria settled in Helgate, spawning a most interesting dynasty (if that's possible); Alindyar & Lyra grown in importance to legends the equal of Bgby et al.; Mongo a great dwarf-soldier; &c. &c. &c. It would make a fine episode. You probably want to avoid Sir Doyle's mistake; his later stories had quite lost their magic. Indeed, and I mean no offense, the City of the Gods was not all that invigourating, for me at least (YMMV, as always). This last epsiode, though, was superb. Had me on the edge of my seat the entire time. Robert That was *totally* great! I read what you said about getting tired. I really understand. You've been doing this for a while. If you are thinking of starting something new, I'd be willing to pay for a subscription. Your writing is really that good. Perhaps it would re-invigorate you to be paid for your work? Jonathan I liked that last episode. I think Victoria had the best part. She stayed out of the main battle but lurked around causing terror. Mark I like her like this. It seems more vampiric that human, which is what she is afterall. Her vampiric forces overtake her logical thoughts. It is not like a vampire to get directly into battle but to stay on the outside picking off the victums one by one. Mark Say, did any of your ideas for future work include a sci-fi series? That would be a pretty enjoyable thing to read, given your success with fantasy (I am told that it can be a not-too-great leap from the one to the other). Eagerly awaiting Adventurers 551, Bob Hi Thomas - Great fight - I thought it was going to be even closer, but really things were pretty even. Those poor maids are going to have a huge task cleaning up the castle after that fight! I am interested in what magical goodies Belphanior and friends might recover from the invading party. The black ring at least, and no doubt some magical weapons... Will we get to see the list? Thanks for all the time you put into this series. It's great fun to read! Ted An exellent episode, as usual. I'm glad it wasn't one of the main characters who died, like Alindyar for instance. Kinichi always seemed like dead weight. His personality was never really developed much, even compared to the other members of the guard. However, I thought someone was supposed to die next episode, not this one. Did you change your mind? By the way, why did Belphanior even take Kinichi and the others along with him? They're supposed to be his elite guard. Shouldn't they stay in the city? You would think that especially with himself and Otto gone, he would like to have more than "just" Razor Charlie and Skaktek in the city. Are they supposed to be guards, or adventuring companions? I look forward to seeing how the returning characters deal with the invaders next episode. Jacob Good Story! I have always enjoyed the major battles when the Adventurer's fight other high powered groups. The bounty hunters with Zara, Necros and clan, these... all turn out to be quite interesting. I purchased the AD&D adventure "Rod of Seven Parts." It is designed in such a way that that group isn't sure of what they have (the first piece) but they are suddenly being attacked by other groups of creature seeking the Rod. It might be something you consider writing up. Keep writing, it is appreciated. Marc Great episode as always, Thomas. Reminded me of some of the earlier Adventure stuff when our original group was going up against a group of baddies. I'm looking forward to more Adventurers stories, or anything else you have the time and inclination to write. Take it easy... Greg Damn fine read. A nice twist to make Whisper's trial something which happened as a child, rather than when he was a young man and loosing wife and children. I do like tortured/dark personalities. Thanks again. Pete These two stories were great. I read Lost Tales #25 first, eager to learn of the origins of the "Whisper". Great story, great concept (the assassin school), great character. This might be the best lost tale you wrote. What can I say about Adventurers 550? I love it when the adventurers are really tested by powerful NPC foes. I liked the priest of Tharizdun, I've never seen one before. Aja really gives me some insight into what Wee Jas is all about. I like that Ys isn't the only member of his race. Where is Ys from, Hepmanland (sp?) maybe? Don't forget to have Belph et. al, loot the bodies. These Npcs probably had great stuff. Will the drow slay the hydra to get the ring, it's probably lost I guess? What were the powers of the ring? It was also fitting that Bosco, not a battle stud, helps turn the tide of the fight by using his unique skills. Also, turning the gorgon vs the rust monster was a great tactic. Did you pick the drow's tactic and then the monsters, or the monsters then the tactic? I was worried that you were going to kill off Razor Charlie. I like him, I don't know why, but I do. Anyway, I hope you keep writing these stories. I get great enjoyment from reading them. They help broaden my greyhawk horizons. And they give me campaign ideas. Thank you for writing these great stories. If you feel you need to write less, go ahead, any stories, whether bi-weekly or monthly even, would be better than non. A loyal reader, Arcane Hi!!!!! That was a MIGHTY battle. Three thumbs up. In general, a battle party against party is in my opinion more interesting, then the party against some dumb monster. About the lack of ideas - I can deliver some. There could be a continuation of Mongo and Gorin story line: they could go into a battle, for example against Iuz, and lose it, and get captured. Then there could be a rescue operation by others, including Marcus and Yod. Or else, think of riches, that some of the Adventurers have amassed. Ged and Belphaniors castles must be full of it, and who likes castles and treasures? Right, dragons. A black dragon attacks Nenya and Derick, what do you think about it? Then, there is this guy, who escaped from the destroyed city in Underdark, and a certain Duke of Hell, Hadeus, who must be seriously pissed. Then again, if Greyhawk wars come closer, there must be agents of Scarlet Brotherhood in the Free City, and the Thiefs Guild under command of Peldor could be ordered by the Oligarchs to deal with them. Arnold could run into some evil priest or wizard on his journeys. Bosco could lose all his money to some better card player, maybe supported by Orcus or some other fiend, and so become dependent on him and be persuaded to make a trap for Peldor or Tanya. Tanya or Nenya or Lyra could become engaged in an affair, or their husbands. I mean, a man is a man, and a woman is a woman, it's only human. Another turnament for Rillen could be written. You could make little quests for Belphaniors supporting charakters, familiar to the quests adventurers have had. Well, I hope all this will be for some use. Please keep writing, many people enjoy it. Yours Michael A really good stomper. Probably your best yet. In the way of clarity and my ability to actually visualize the fighting that was taking place. I give this one a 10+ on a scale of one to ten. Keep up the good work. Steve Hello Thomas, Good stories,I mean real good stories.I hope you enjoy your break from writing for while. I have a few ideas that might be useful for plot lines, but i figure by the time you get this you'll have been sent more ideas than you'll know what to do with. At any rate, have a good vacation. Frank P.S.: If you think that you're getting tired of The Adventurers, then by all means take a break! Stop, till the time comes that you actually want to get back at writing! P.P.S.: BTW, Tharizdun's *high* priest? I thought that they couldn't get more than 2nd-3rd level spells because he's imprisoned or something! Is this a hint or what? P.P.P.S.: I ain't telling you how good this story was - ALL your stories are terrific - else i wouldn't read them! What i *will* tell you though, is that your descriptions seem to be more brutal and bloody now, which is very good - after all wounds inflicted by medivial weapons were indeed terrible to behold. A sense of realism, albeit shocking, is always to my liking... Marios I thoroughly enjoy reading your stories and am trully sorry that TSR did not take an interest in your work..Keep up the excellent work please. Sincerely, Chris Hi Thomas, Great long drawn out battles. I was really absorbed in the story from the beginning to end. It was a nice touch from you the way you divided the enemy force otherwise more of the Adventurers would have bitten the dust. I am also glad (!) that only two minor characters died from the 'Good' side. The story about Whisper was also extremely fascinating. I could actually feel the cold, fear and hunger as I was reading the story. I KNOW because I was a boat refugee fleeing from Vietnam in extremely harsh condition (60 feet leaking boat for 185 people) with little food and drink for 5 days. A wonderful tale. I really look forward to reading more of these marvellous tales and may your ideas never run out. I find that I miss the good old dungeon crawl for Adventurers at levels 5-9 or so (when they can start doing serious damage with a fireball but is still really fearful for their life). Many Thanks. Philip Thomas: In the story 550 you said the following That wasn't all, though; all of the other foes who still lived vanished along with him! Omak, Canis, Ixlin, and Wampa blinked out of existence as if they'd never been there. Later you said Belphanior: No, I mean that all of these foes just vanished, dead and live ones alike. I was wondering which it was. If all dissappeared the party would only get the treasure from the two that were killed earlier. If only the ones alive disappeared there would be the treasure from three or four other (besides the two killed earlier). Also they could do a speak with dead and find out what it was all about. John >> HE'S RIGHT - I MADE A MISTAKE HERE. ONLY THE LIVING FOES WERE >> TELEPORTED AWAY. THIS WILL BE ADDRESSED NEXT TIME THE HELGATE >> CREW APPEARS. Hi there Thomas, I have been an avid reader of "The Adventurers" for a little over two months now, and have read almost all of the episodes on ther internet. As I am now pretty much up to date, I wish to be included on the mailing list to receive current articles. Ihope you can continue on with the "Adventureres" story as it has provided me with many hours of excitement and adventure, along with many other readers. One idea I can think of is to bring Orcus back into the picture again. I know that he was forbidden from exherting his power too much on the prime material plane, however there are many ways in which he can influence thigs with the party. I also enjoying reading the "Dark Questers". I reckon it's great to see the workings of an "evil" party at play, and it is refreshing to break away from the "good triumphing over evil" mold. Long live "the Adventurers." With thanks, Mark TM: Thanks for the recognition in 551. It was, as you said, a loose end that had been nagging at me since Ged's death. It would be interesting if he made some sort of appearance to let Deryck and Nenya know how pleased (displeased?) he is with their work. That museum idea was very good as well. Wasn't Mongo going to commission a statue of Ged to be made? If the museum idea goes through, maybe the statue could be placed somewhere in or around the museum? I haven't had time to write about the last Belph story arc, but I wanted to let you know that I thoroughly enjoyed them. I can see another story line or two coming out of that one. Maybe Ys will finally tell us about his past? While I am rambling about story lines, is there one about Belph and making/retrieving his new eye? later, Joe Thomas, Great story arc re: the Lost City! I've been reading for about 4 years now, and I still continue to look forward to new Adventurers stories! I am looking forward to the story line with Deryck and Nenya, as well - I enjoy the "settled" adventurers (Peldor & Tanya, Alindyar and Lyra, etc) as much as the others. I was glad to read your comments on this one, that you will continue to write until at least episode 600. I had visions dancing in my head of losing both "Seinfeld" and The Adventurers in the same year! Take care, Michael Just passed the 500 mark, great reading so far. It occurs to me that while the party were wandering around in the abyss, they mentioned Oerth-2. Had Orcus been listening, this would be a way to attack something the party holds dear while still fulfilling his "contract" with Belphanior... --Thom Is it any point in just writing "Hey, great work, I really enjoy the reading!" once in a while? On the odd chance that it is, I do. :-) Havard Hahhahaha... damn. Hilarious. The Adventurers kick ass! I stumbled across them about 3 years ago when I was in college, and re-found them again about 2 months ago. They kick ASS! Great work. Your Real-Life adventures are hilarious to read about as well.. only one complaint -- write more of them!! Keep doin' what you're doin'... it rocks! -Matt 555 It's great to be back with Mongo again. I see you've really shaken things up by removing both Gorin and Mongo's girdle of strength! This episodes acts as a nice introduction to the action that's bound to follow. I noticed that Lord Marcus is pleased that Mongo is earnest, intelligent, and a quick learner, but he obviously has reservations about what drives Mongo. Mongo doesn't want to be a mercenary, and it shows, although he'll be good at it. The exploratory expedition he's on now is what he lives for! I suspect this will eventually lead Marcus to dismiss Mongo, although on friendly terms. Gorin on the other hand might not leave anytime soon. Mongo needs to find his destiny as king of some great dwarven realm, but he still has much to learn about leadership, which he can learn from Marcus. Leonard 556 It's great to see Mongo in action, and a treat to see him actually in charge. By having Mongo command a squad of dwarves you've elevated the tale from a simple dungeon crawl to a study in leadership -- cool. Leonard 557 More of Mongo in command, and he makes a tactical mistake (assuming the unknown creatures are easy targets because they avoid the light). This kicks ass. >Mongo: Dammit. What use is being strong and invulnerable if your friends > aren't? This is great! Mongo is realizing that his actions have consequences for those under his command, who aren't as able to deal with dangerous situations as he. He can't be reckless with others' lives like he can with his own (or his old adventuring buddies, who could also take care of themselves). The tribulations of leadership. Leonard Hi my name is Doug and I live in a small town in Ohio called Wellsville. I played AD&D with my best friend, his brother, and a family from his church. The father of the family was named Dale and he was our DM. His wife and daughter played in our party. It was awesome! I enjoyed every minute we played as if it was coming to an end forever. Well, Dale's kids that lived in California moved home and his work shift changed so we never played anymore. It hurt me because I loved it so much. My best friend went out and bought everything needed to play AD&D and he got me and a few other friends together to play. It was ok but it wasn't the same as Dale being the DM. Then today when I came across your page, I read some of your stories and they reminded me of Dale. You DM the same way and even better. I only wish I could join your group. It sounds like so much fun...... *Sigh* I wish someone like you lived around here so I could really and truly play AD&D. Sincerely, Doug I just wanted to say that reading your stories have brought me alot of joy. I hope that you contiune writing for a long time and I think that you should even do a real book in that kind of setting I'm sure it would make a big hit. Solo bravo! I'm not quite sure why I liked it: something about the well-justified dungeon-delve, intelligent monsters, good characterisation of mongo ... It was just fun to read, anyway. Gary ARGH! You bastard. Now I understand the fan mail complaints about missing time at work. I never thought it would happen to me, but I spent critical time this morning reading the latest Adventurer's while work waited. Consider yourself complimented. keep it up, Ed just read #557 and 558. Cliffhangers for both Mongo, and Rillen and Songa. What next?! I'm almost salivating at the thought of the 'comeuppance' and the bottom of the 'bottomless shaft'! It's another week until our next DND session here. How can I survive?!! Perhaps I should surf the Web DND sites. Cheers, Geoff. Awsome story!!! keep up the good work!!! Andrew Hi Thomas ! Ouf... I've finaly catch up with the rate you write your "adventurers" stories (I've just read the #558). I just wrote to tell you that I really enjoy your stories and that I would like to be added to your mailing list. Your writing style (that I believe you call "narrative") is a refreshing change from the style we see in the work of other fantasy writers. I also think that, in some stories, you've been able to make the fear that the caracters feel pass throught the screen. I'm talking here of the stories about the fog thing (where Belph met Otto) and the second sewer adventure (especially with the unusual duo of Peldor and Otto). Oh, and by the way, my favorite caracter is Peldor (I also like Ys, Otto and Bosco) and I wouldn't mind if you did stop to write the adventurers stories as long as you continue to write something else and that the adventurers saga come to some sort of an end. Phil. Howdy, If all else fails, and you run out of things for the Adventurers to do, you can always have their children (grown up of course) doing something. Wasn't there some sort of war slated soonish in their time slot? (I can't remember....) It might be interesting starting at the begininng. Just a suggestion, and not a very good one, I guess, but there you go. :) James Hi Thomas > notes: Two pregnancies revealed in five episodes, you ask? I have just read 558, and suddenly thought of Bosco. Can you imagine about year from now, story time, when one of the babies needs a baby sitter and Bosco is only one around. It would be absolute havoc. Well it put a smile on my face. Keep up the good work Andrew Hello Thomas, Pretty good so far.I really like it,this may be perfect for Songa to show Rillen that she is more than capable of protecting herself(and him!). Meanwhile, take it easy and keep up the good writing! Frank 562 hey Thomas, this was good. these character interact well together. you can't help but laugh. just think of the fun if Felicia learns _too_ much from Bosco!! it'll be three of them vs. Tanya!! oh, that would be fun. Matt 560 Thanks for sending this to me it is a good story,with interesting chracters and agood plot Don Great story. I like the idea of a dragon as a neighbor for Rillen and Songa. is there going to be another meeting between the three anytime soon? Keep up the great work!!! Griff 561 Hi Thomas, It's almost midnight down here, I'm just stuffing around with a web page I'm doing for work, and what do you know, the next Adventurers turns up! Pretty passive arc you've just finished, I guess tho, it serves as a good break to find out what the "other" adventurers have been up to lately. What the hell has Arnold been doing?? I completely forgot about him!!! Anyway, looking forward to whatever is coming up next (A good Bosco story always promises a hearty laugh!) Ben Sartori 562 When it comes to story writing, you never know what the reader will identify with, or find interesting or funny. I just about pee'ed my pants when you said that they were trying to get on a river boat, and then settled on a manor "OUTSIDE" the city limits with the expressed purpose of avoiding the taxes. I find that whole thought line incredibly funny, and I'm not entirely sure why. Maybe it has something do with what is going on in Chicago now with "river boat" gambling. Greg (long, interesting survey response) What I'd like to know: 1) your age 33 2) country you live in USA - New Jersey specifically 3) favorite Adventurer (includes henchpeople; please just pick one) Belphanior: He's versatile and commanding, fierce when he has to be yet compassionate (somewhat), conquering and most importantly, he's still adventuring. You can never underestimate him or count him out, he always finds a way to overcome any situation, often at great personal risk. (no one seems to remember any of those times!) I look forward to episodes with him in them. I'm particularly interested to see how he handles the current story line within the City of the Gods and his welcome home. I know you only asked for one but, I must mention I like Peldor a lot also. He's extremely intelligent, shrewd & cunning, always confident, and very good at getting the most out of items or situations. Unfortunately, he doesn't really adventure as much. I did enjoy his escapades with the guild but until he goes adventuring again, he'll have to take a back seat to Belphanior. Maybe the shape shifters could come back and get him into action again! That might be what he needs to get the itch again. I still think he should go get the adamantine golem from the underworld. Talk about the ultimate guardian for his treasure or the guild! If anyone could find a way to do it, Peldor can! (he does have a wish) 4) favorite non-Adventurer character Cynder: He's been great! A foe at first who played a bit of a trick on the Adventurers. An ally after the Isle of the Ape and into Orcus' lair. He been interesting, very intelligent and cunning, as a great dragon should be, but also smart enough to realize when to fight and when to ally. Good Guy (on the Adventurer's side at least): Whisper: He is the best at what he does, completely no nonsense and extremely lethal. Would love to learn more about him (upcoming lost tale). Maybe he and Peldor could become friends without Peldor knowing who he really is at first, i.e. Wisper could be checking out the new guildmaster to see what he thinks of him. He and Peldor must work/adventure together! Bad Guy (foe of the adventurers): Zara: She was one tough bitch completely bent on destroying the Adventurers, particularly Alindyar and Lara. She was cunning and tricky and just wouldn't die for a while there. The group she put together to attack the adventurers was great. What a battle, could very easily have been the end of the adventurers! 5) have you been reading since the original release of #1 (in late 1991) or did you discover Adventurers after that? (either/or answer please) Discovered the Adventurers about December of '96, turned onto it by Matt and Andy Hurd and have been completely hooked ever since. I started with #1 from an ftp site and read them all until I caught up, (early March I think). I then subscribed and look forward to them every Wednesday (I'm a little spoiled, you've been releasing them regularly since I've been a subscriber, Matt and Andy told me of the old days). 6) would you mind seeing the Adventurers saga end (except for special one-shots and such) if it meant I'd produce something new and different? (yes/no answer please) Probably, I really enjoy the Adventurers and want to see them progress beyond where they are now, I think some of their levels should have gone up some already, i.e. Belph, Tanya, Otto, etc. I think there is still plenty to write about just based on the loose ends to the previous stories. I know some loose ends will never be resolved but I still think about their resolution. Some loose ends I'm patiently waiting for resolution to: a return to the GreyHawke Ruins and a discovery of what all the "components" were for, Ged to make an appearance (as a demi god, not a return), to finish the Rune Quest and find out just what each rune can do, Belphanior's reconciliation/retribution with Greyhawke, Orcus' demise, The Drow cities revenge from the Tarasc, someone claiming the Adamantine golem (I think Peldor should, he's probably the only one who would even think of doing such a thing), Peldor's origins. If you developed another AD&D type adventure, or any kind of medieval swords and sorcery, I'd probably enjoy that. BUT, I think one of the most appealing aspects of the Adventurers is that each character was developed by someone actually playing the character. You've done a great job maintaining the personalities, traits, desires and responses of the original characters. I think it would be difficult for one person to come up with such a grouping of characters by them self. You've stated yourself that some of the characters were harder to write for than others. I suspect that's because you just don't grasp or understand the character's personality and desires and you would never think of saying/doing the things the character does. The diversity of the characters and personalities really makes the Adventurers enjoyable. If you developed another type of series, I don't know if I'd enjoy it. I've never really gotten into the other types of role playing games like Gamma World, Space Rangers, etc. I guess I'm a little single minded like that. I do enjoy science fiction so I might enjoy something along those lines even if I don't think I would at this time. Whatever you do, I will give it a chance. I'm sure I don't fully grasp the scale of this undertaking and you may well be getting tired of writing the Adventurers so I won't be too upset if you move on to something new but I will miss the Adventurers. Maybe you can have guest writers for some stories or at least have some people submit scenarios for stories that you could fill in the details of. 7) would you join/participate in an Adventurers discussion list if I made one? (yes/no answer) YES absolutely! 8) what is your favorite type of storytelling (dungeoncrawl, battle, intrigue) ? All! You can't do just one and have a complete world. All are needed. I do find some of the traveling a little boring and I am sometimes disappointed when there isn't some kind of battle in each story. 9) do you use any of the web or ftp sites to get your episodes? if so, which one? I check in with the Adventurer's web site to find out what's going on, but not often enough lately. I use the myths and shobaki web sites for old issues. The myths site is good for reading several consecutive issues (i.e. a story line) and the shobaki site is good for searching the old episodes. I download stories from the myths ftp site. I read your correspondance with TSR about publishing books, and I am excited about the prospect of novels based on the greyhawk modules. I assume that "classic" means the out of print Gary Gygax written ones. I hove thought for a long time that this would be a good idea and I hope that my guess is correct. Have you heard anything else concerning these publications or had any more contact with TSR? By the way, I hape you eventually work out a deal with them. TSR seems in my opinion to make a mistake when they insist on prior publication before they will publish you themselves. They should realize there are many players of the game with talent out there, and they could be the first ones to discover such people (and even pay them less initially, which should please them as well!) They constantly complain that they have not time, but your time is what you make for yourself. Enough ranting for one day. P.S. It has been a while since I was an active player, and perhaps you would know the answer to this question. What ever happened to E. Gary Gygax? I know they had a falling out, but has he been heard from recently? Thanks for the great site. John 564 > A beautiful description of the house of Lord Kilroy. Why all the effort? > Is Bosco going to gamble Lord Kilroy for it..? ;-) Good idea, but no. I just felt like building a house :0 Hi Thomas, I'm a regular reader (off David Murphy's site). I first read an episode or two of your stuff on a BBS years ago- it was just before the Great Underdark Saga. After that, I found your stuff again on the Giga Games CD, and happily read (and even re-read) them. I got a job this spring with good internet access, and tracked down yor stories. It was pretty neat to see that hundreds more episodes had been written after the ones I had read. I gradually caught up and have been checking back weekly for a couple of months now. Your stories always reminded me of the charm and simple fun D&D could be. Most of the games I've played have been lower-magic and much more heavily intrigue and character-interection based. I kind of miss the old-fashioned adventure sometimes. I've happily watched as your talent has expanded and your characterization and narrative focus have broadened. You're hardly a great writer, but you certainly have talent. Your work is unique, partially in kind but mostly in dedication and overall vision. I greatly respect the investment of time and commitment here. Ragnar I just read the last few letters you received from TSR. While it's nice to hear that they at least responded to you, I think you've got some pretty legit concerns. You never know what TSR would do with your work if you post it on their site. You got a great fan base going on your own website. I say post it there where you have control over it. Kenneth answers to questions from Jeffrey: Sorry for the delay - I've been busy and/or sick. Case-by-case answers: > * I remember that a question was raised about how many times Peldor > had "hasted" himself. Well, after a lengthy count, the total is 30 times. > Now, the spell adds a year to the person's life after each use, right? > Well, how about if the next time Peldor hastes himself, he is hit by a > buildup of the years and suddenly aged to the ripe old age of 60? This > could set up some kind of quest to rejuvenate him to his former state. Hmm...I kinda forgot about all those hastes...this idea could happen, though before it does I need to figure out where I stand on aging and de-aging. > * Peldor must get sick of living in the inn; He and Tanya have made > reference to building a house; let's see it. It's too soon after the new inn being built. Eventually... > * Just a point of interest for me, as you said you have no intention > of resurrecting him, but Ged had a conversation with Nenya discussing the > life expectancy of the party (Book 17, right before (or after) she marries > Deryck). It was during this talk that Ged discussed the fact that he would > be the last member to die. It sounded like he had asked for divine > providence in this manner from Boccob. It sets up the potential for his > return, though you sound dead set against it (no pun intended). Sorry, Ged will not return. > * The roaming hermit of Burneal. I believe there was a reference made > about him at one point, and a few times after that, but I don't believe I've > ever seen anything else with him in it. He sounds like an interesting > character, or could be one at least. If anyone's ever in that area again, he will definitely return. > * This is something I think would be really neat to see. This hit me > one day in kind of like a Marvel "What If...." Comic situation. What if, > during a battle, the Iron Dwarf became the wielder of Mongo's hammer. Don't know about this one. > * Ok, for this one, some of my notes are kind of cryptic so bear with > me: I wrote down Peyote's lich returns. Didn't he have a run in with a > lich and it got away? I think Mongo, Halbarad, and that hafling fellow, > Kup?, were involved in the story line. That lich is working for another lich who Ged etc set free on their second trip to a Suel lost city. more to come in the future. > * In the story line with Peldor and Tanya when they were doing the > "favor" for the Despotrix, one of the lady officers, Sarah blanched a bit > when Peldor asked her, while she dined on mushrooms, if she knew Peyote. > Perhaps a story line where that is his sister or something like that?? Someone else noted this a while ago and suggested an illegitemate child...hmm... > * Ged's brother, Aristobulus, decides to seek out the man for whom his > brother gave his life, Belphanior!! With them being the same class and all > (fighter, thief, mage), I thought perhaps that an interesting battle would > ensue before they could come to an understanding. Aristobulus could merely > be seeking to learn more about his brother or something to that effect. The reference to Aristobulus was more of a homage than a push to have the character appear in my stories. we've probably seen the last of him. > * This was a loose end I've been wondering about: When the squid > attacks the boat that Mongo, Rillen, Sonja, Arnold, etc. are traveling on, > the Silithis makes an appearance and says that they will soon get Peldor and > Bosco. Just wondering when/where this was going to come to closure...... Within a couple of episodes. > * Did you ever get the Greyspire information on your web page? Nope. It's just not 100% complete yet. > * Now, I may be in a minority here, but I have never cared much for > the "Wispy" thing. My suggestion: have him move on. When he does so, have > him actually have a conversation with Belphanior, not the standard "Phaa" > and "Mrrf" statements. I see it kind of like when the Thing and the "dog" > from the Inhumans spoke in Marvel Comics (Don't know how much of a Marvel > addict you are; I was a collector for years and have quite a stash of old > books). The closing sequence between the two from Marvel went something > like Thing: "Why didn't you ever say anything before?" Dog: "I just don't > have much to say....." and then they blink out. This would work great here > as well.......... I own every Fantastic Four from #17 to 300-something. We'll have to see about the wisp. I haven't decided his role in the grand scheme of things. > * Peldor's nemesis, Sharyn, escapes prison. Though I'm not sure if > she is best described as Peldor's nemesis, maybe Sharyn could enlist the aid > of the Despotrix to bring Peldor down. It was bound to happen..... I have yet to decide if they let her live or not. > * While we're on the subject of visits home, wouldn't a journey to Ys' > homeland be interesting? If I knew where he came from :) > * Now, Alindyar and Lyra were ultimately responsible for loosing the > tarrasque on the Drow, and in the immortal words of my old journalism > professor, "Paybacks are a bitch." How about the Drow come a'calling in > search of explanations and perhaps, revenge....... Did you read the lost tale that dealt with this? > * Doesn't Rillen have a wish?? Maybe...from where? > * Omak returns with another crew of people after Belphanior (but we > knew that was coming.....) Have you checked the Sneak Previews lately? > These are just some thoughts and loose ends that I compiled after reading > through all your stuff the second time. If you like any of these, feel free > to use them; I'd consider it an honor actually. Some of them are dead on track, others are tougher because I don't know what I want to do with certain characters/situations yet, and a few won't happen. A mixed bag... > change a bit, something about the "original" group you refer to like Yod, > Kup, Marcus, Yarl, etc. Let's see another group start from their beginnings > and rise to where they are today. Sounds like a lot of interesting > characters and a lot of interesting stories to be told. The change I need isn't from one fantasy group to another, but rather from the fantasy genre to something else. Like sci-fi. > Keep writing; I couldn't imagine it if you stopped.... I'll always be writing _something_, though not always Adventurers. tm 565 I truly enjoyed this last adventure and even though it was confusing to write.. it really was not confusing to read and was suspenseful to the end.(Even though we knew that Bosco would prevail). Keep up the good work :) Steven Hi there, My name's Edward, and im just sending a quick (though maybe too late, judging by the dates on these files) congratulatory note on your chronicles. You guys must've had a hell of a good campaign, and i think your chronicles do it justice. (tis such a pity i cant start up a decent sized campaign myself *sigh*) Anyway, i am also sending a short note requesting to be put on your mailing services for any new and up and coming episodes! ;) So ummm yeah, great work with the rpg, and hopefully you guys will have a reunion sometime.. Edward Aaahhh, I can't believe it, I started reading Adventurers in August thinking I'd never get to the end, but here I am waiting with baited breath for the next story. Please put me on your mailing list, and just to keep you updated as per your previous census I am English, 23, female, favorite character, tough one but I think it would have been Ged, I was almost in tears at his funeral. Favorite other Victoria, (if she counts) Favorite story, the rescue of Victoria I found your stories on the web Can't remember what else you asked, but have to say I really like the adventures, I feel as though I know the characters intimately. Thank you Sally I"m wracking my brain, but I just can't remember the associated events with this. What chapter(s) did the murders take place? I think I need to dig into the archives again.... Thanks for the great job at weekly entertainment. Even after six years I still look forward to the next one. -- __ Miq What a totally unexpected twist! Well done! This is going to be fun! qts Wow, what an interesting plot twist in 566! I thought things were getting a little stale, but you seem to have it all set up for another blast from the past. Can you say Loch-Nar? How I love it when things come back to haunt the Adventurers... Eagerly awaiting the next episode... -- Major Vladdus Mpale Mr. Miller, I have been a long-time fan of your adventures and have read them from their beginnings years ago! I want you to know that they have been an inspiration to me both as a DM and as a player of the AD&D game. Originally my favorite character was Alindyar and always considered him the best role-player because of his calm reflections and his refusal to become power-hungry. It also seems that he took a more difficult role. I once borrowed one of your ideas for my own campaign. If you will remember, several hundred episodes ago, (around 150 or so) the characters when through a portal into an alternate reality and met up with their opposites. I thought that was really cool and tried it with my group. The players really enjoyed it because they learned much about themselves as well as the others! Belphanior was always my other favorite and is the inspiration for a character that I am playing: a half-orc assassin. I loved the way he would do disturbing, disgusting things as if there should be no question. That type of character is fun. I guess I want to thank you for all the time, effort, and work you have put into the adventures over the years because they have supplied me with pleasure, laughter, and some great campaign ideas. Cisco 568 Bravo! qts I like it! How I do love when you get old enemies back into the story, even having them pull the Adventurers' fat out of the fire, just to pound them. I look forward to seeing Silthis' quest for them. I'm sure you will think of something incredible. It's hard to think what the Elemental lord of water is unable to do, and thereby would need the Adventurers to do. Might I suggest something on one of the other elemental planes? Say earth or fire? Thanks for continuing to write these wonderful Adventurers stories. Arcane P.S. Thanks for bringing us years of awesome Adventurers stories. I am an aspiring writer myself and when I come to a writer's block or a lack of enthusiasm I re-read some Adventurer's episodes and I am reminded of why I want to write in the first place. Cheers to you! Don Hey Great job on the web page! Right now i'm at lunch I was just lookin' for some AD&D info and i stumbled across your page you did a Kick Ass job on it very orgnized and neat with awsome info about items and people hope you don't mind me using some of your ideas the eye of elik would be perfict on my one eyed Sural Witch Hunter (a class me and my friends maked) i'd like to be put on your mailing list for your storys if that's possible and if any more items are added to your list let me know dav Thomas, Its been awhile, but this is great!!! Plus you are laying the seeds for future problems. This valley now having access to that cave area. Hmm, wonder what kind of problems this can bring for our friends at Greyspire. And the Iron Dwarf coming back.. Masterful, PLUS the Hammer seeding thoughts in Mongo's head. Ahhhh...the joy in seeing our Oh So invincible Dwarf toyed with in the stories to come!! Keep up the awesome!! Writing!! You have a way of brightening ones week for sure!! peace Joe Hi Thomas, I just read adventurer #569 and it was great !!! It's great to Mongo being in deep shit and kicking butts once more. I don't dislike the Peldor, Tanya and co. city adventures but there is nothing like seeing a lone character (or two or three) trying to survive. Keep up the good work, Phil As you tell the adventurers story, I often times very-eagerly look forward to the next episode. Today I realized why: the characters of you stories are so consistent that I actually am waiting for _your_ outcome of the story as if it is the historical telling of events. As I consider what might happen to Mongo on the Riftcanyon floor, and I can think of a numer of adventures, I'm more interested in hearing your story than any alternatives I can come up with. In most fantasy works I've read I can see other directions I'd take the story. Your work has always been of excellent quality and I rarely even consider alternatives. Again, thanks for the good reading. Jim Hello Thomas, A few comments about the Bosco story arc: I'll give you the good stuff first. I liked how Bosco took charge. When they were in the Green Dragon Inn and when they were confronted by Silthis. His bargain to perform a task for Silthis was a great idea and could be beneficial for all involved. He could have bargained a little more on the magic items but so be it. I'd think the task to be performed would be so much more important to Silthis. What does he need with their puny magic items. Unless, he just wanted to make them suffer some but it seemed he was just interested in money in the beginning. He said he'd let them go for 10 times the original amount then all of a sudden he wants magic too? And 10 items of worth! Seemed a little inconsistent to me but you don't know if 10 times the original amount would have really gotten them off. One point though, where were Bosco's magic items? Did Peldor bring them? Bosco wasn't carrying much and I got the impression he wasn't wearing some or any of his stuff or he could have used his boots of flying to get off the raft. That seemed irregular to me. My biggest complaint though is I don't like how they got out of Bosco's Trial. Once the people of Tusmit find out Bosco is still alive, they will be back for him. Besides, if Bosco goes back to Greyhawke, Sir Anton will definitely rat on him. This solution only bought them some time, it didn't resolve the problem. Pompa-Peyvur seemed to not believe Silthis in the end and I think will still pursue Bosco or at least have someone still pursue him. You surprised me with this outcome though. All along, it seemed like Peldor and Alindyar were intent on proving Bosco's innocence. They decided it was the only alternative. Fighting or fleeing wouldn't work and Bosco didn't want to be on the run. There were several excerpts which support this: ... When Bosco asked for the favor from Silthis, I thought for sure it would be to testify on his behalf or something like that. This would have probably cleared his name and they could have just offered to pay to cover the cost of rebuilding plus something for the families of the dead. Then they could have left as free men. Now Bosco wasn't aware of the conversations Peldor and Alindyar had and he and Peldor may not have heard Pompa-Peyvur's comments about Silthis so maybe this was their most likely course of action. I just think they would have been smart enough to know this wasn't a solution. All in all, this is still a loose end that will have to be dealt with some day. My only other comment is: In the story, most of the guards passed out from raw fear when Silthis confronted them. But, earlier you refereed to them as Elite Guards and Peldor and Alindyar commented on how skilled they were during the Giant encounter. I don't really remember how the fear thing works level wise but they seemed high enough level to not pass out. Dumb founded and unable to act maybe, but not unconscious. Just my opinion... It was great to see two stories from the past come back to haunt them. It shows how easily they can get comfortable in their new lives and forget about the things they did in the past. Others don't forget as easily! I can't wait to see what task Silthis asks them to perform. You can make this a great quest which would be exciting and beneficial for them too. Or, you could make Silthis demand they do something they don't want to do. Maybe something to oppose their friends or Greyhawke that would make them give up their lives and break some ties. They would have to choose to hold up to their bargain or face the consequences. I hope its the former idea. (this could get them back into the Greyhawke Dungeon -hint hint). Thanks for the stories... Bob Hello Thomas, In preparation for the upcoming story line, I re-read stories 548 & 550. I have a few comments. Firstly, I was really impressed by how Skektek acted. He was always cocky but usually whined a lot which always annoyed me. His move with the lightning wand and the Dao was really cool. I liked how he was calm in the cell waiting for the opportunity to help Charlie and how he did so in spite of the immense pain he must have been feeling. I was probably most surprised by how he reacted more than any of the others. I have a new found respect for him and will give him a lot more patience with his whining. I liked how Victoria used her hypnotism powers to calm the girls, don't forget to go get them in the next story. When she was fighting Vybool, you stated her speed and skill against his size and strength, I thought vampires had 18.00 strength, as do ogres. I thought she should have slit his throat before leaping to Grub. I think she bailed a little early but she was severely out numbered. I was disappointed she didn't come back to help with the big battle when Belphanior arrived home. It seems she's a little more worried about herself than any of the others, including Belph. I guess you get that way when you're immortal. When Charlie was fighting Wampa in the castle, it seemed he was using a normal throwing knife, he should have learned from the portcullis that the normal weapons don't hurt were-beasts. He might have killed Wampa if he was using one of his magical knives. The big battle was great! Poor Belphanior didn't get to kill anyone! I bet Blackrazor is disappointed. Maybe Aja can resurrect the dead opponents so Blackrazor can have their souls. Probably not. The group handled things well. It was good to see Alindyar and Lyra back Belphanior, I know Lyra doesn't particularly like him. They could have just teleported away and left him. But then again, I would think Belph would get revenge on anyone who bailed on him. Bosco's use of his marble of chaos was great. I liked how Bosco spotted Angus and dug him up. Another good move for Bosco, he's great to have around in a tough situation. Poor Angus, that's twice (Greyhawk early on) he was buried in rock and had to wait for someone to dig him out. Alindyar's illusion with the Gorgon and Rust Monster was a great idea. I like his Bigby's hand. Can he use it to bash things also? If so, he should bash one opponent while holding another. Kill two bad guys with one spell! Lyra was resourceful using her earrings of power. And she used them very well too. I can't wait to see Belphanior's revenge on the Sea Princes. Are the Sea Princes an evil group? I don't really remember them from my Greyhawk days. I almost think Belphanior is going to take over their kingdoms and impose himself as absolute ruler! Nah, that would be too much to take care of. But, he will teach them to leave him alone or die! I don't think he can leave them living because they have the numbers and resource to always come after him with a bigger force. I think he has to kill them all to be safe. I have a couple of questions: How did Omak and company find Belphanior? Scrying? If so, Belphanior should get some kind of protection against that but I don't think so or they would have just teleported to the locale. They traveled long and hard to get there. I think Belphanior should do a speak with dead on the bodies of the bad guys to find out who they are and why they came after him and how they found him. He could also find out about Ys, why Ug hated him so much and if others of his kind will be coming after him. I wouldn't do this in front of Ys but if Ys finds out, Belph can say it was for prevention of future problems. He needs to know who might be coming for him and his employees so he can take the appropriate precautions. Maybe Ys will leave now that someone knows where he is. (Kind of like the Incredible Hulk...) Is there a limit to the life span of a Marble of Chaos? If not and the duplicate forever, the room should be pretty much covered with marbles by now. What are they going to do with all of them? They could make pretty good traps around the castle. Imagine a small box of these marbles set to fall onto the floor when some trap sets them off, the intruders wouldn't be able to walk through that part of the castle. You could have spikes come up from the floor too so that when the people fell, they'd be impaled! Just an idea. A couple of notes: When Omak charged Charlie in the guard house with the table, Charlie should have thrown knives at Omak's feet, not the table. (imagine if he had one of Bosco's marbles there, that would have been funny) When Charlie hit Kenso Adon in the chest with the rusty knife (after being freed by Skektek), you said he was spared from harm thanks to a ring he wears but, in the guard house, Charlie did hit Kenso twice with throwing knifes. When the hydra breathed fire on Angus, you said he was rejuvenated, I didn't think he was ever damaged. He only sank into the stone. Also, when Omak disappeared, you stated all the other foes who still lived disappeared also but later when Belphanior is talking to Victoria, he says that all the foes just vanished, dead and live ones alike. This is a contradiction. If all the dead disappeared, there won't be much loot left. Just Rykooda and Xylus's things plus things dropped during battle. Klark's arm with the ring was torn from his body and should still be there. And Ug's battle axe was dropped during battle. Some of Grub's stuff was left too. Also, if the dead are gone too, Belphanior won't be able to do a speak with dead to get information. Oh well. When Victoria enters the hall after the battle, she licking blood from her fingers and later states Xylus won't be coming back as one of her. I didn't think Alindyar, Lyra and Bosco knew she was a vampire. Well they probably do now. I wasn't sure if most of the marshals knew either. I know Charlie did and thought the others did since they went after a bunch of other vampires on their first mission with Belphanior. Alindyar, Lyra and Bosco knowing now could cause a bit of trouble with the goodie goodies in the group. On the other hand, if they all know, Belph doesn't have to make excuses for her anymore like he did for Nenya's wedding. Maybe Alindyar could teach Belphanior his continual darkness spells or create some kind of coach for her shrouded in darkness so she could travel during the day. On to the spoils, the most important part of any good battle: Klark's ring of control, could Belphanior use that with his conjured beasts from the Book of Beasts? Or does he have absolute control of them already? I think Belphanior would be very interested in whatever allowed Kenso to fight invisibly. He should also be interested in the ring that protected him from Charlie's knife throw. He was envious of Ged's belt of protection from normal missiles. Are Javelins of Lightning reusable? Or is it a one time thing when you invoke the lightning ability? I think Belphanior should give Angus Ug's battle ax. He and Ys are the only two big and strong enough to wield it. I don't get the impression Ys is a trophy collector and I think he likes his sword better so I don't think he would want it. Angus could do some serious damage with it making him that much more affective... I bet Xylus has some interesting items Belphanior would find very useful. Rykooda should too. Well, that's all (that's a lot actually). I have to go home now. I look forward to the upcoming stories. Thanks... Bob Hi Thomas, I am one of your fans of the series "The Adventurers". I haven't finished reading all of them yet, but I am sure I will continue to read every single chapter whenever I have time. It's so funny, amazing, full of action. Anyways, just want to drop a short note to say I enjoy it very much. Thanks for your time. Kevin > Needless to say, this is not debatable. 1999 will perhaps > see many things, but one thing it will NOT see is Adventurers. I'm sorry to see this come to an end, but I respect your decision. If you feel burnt out, you should not continue writing. I'm sure whatever you do next will be just as good. Speaking of what you're going to do next... :) A while ago I sent you some mail, and in your reply you included a URL to a page that included ideas for a series about the children of the adventurers. Is this what your next project will be, or do you plan on doing something else now? Also... is it possible that we will still see some of The Adventurers? Perhaps for a "special" every once in a while? Thank you for all these years of writing, for which you have asked no payment. Jacob First, I'd like to thank you for the cuontless hours of entertainment that The Adventurers has provided me with. And not only entertainment, but also inspiration. I've gotten several fresh ideas for my campaign and characters, and I've even modeled one of my characters almost directly after Belphanior. secondly, the ispiration has not only been in FRPs but also in art, in which I dabble. therefore I am sending you the first picture the adventurers has inspired in me, in JPG-format. It is a picture of Belphanior's castle in Helgate, one of my favorite locales in the Adventurers. I would be honored if you posted it on the homepage of the adventurers. If you would like to have the original, (ink on paper) please contact me by email, and I will take care of the mailing. There will be more pictures coming, the next one probably being of Alindyar and Lyra. gratefully, Samppa How do you find the time and discipline to keep writing all the time. I'd like to start writing some ideas I have, but can never stick to my desires... Any advice for an admiring fan? Patrick > It's tough. It really is. there have been many times when > I kept writing even though I didn't want to, simply because I > felt obligated to keep going. This is why I've hatched the > plan for 1999. > > Right now, I am fired up to write through 600 because I > want it to be done. Weird, eh? > > > > > tm > I suppose it helps because you know you've done it before...know what I mean? These characters and your format are tested and comfortable to you. For me, it's all knew and foreign, so it will take me a while to get into some sort of groove or pattern. I imagine that might be what's preventing you from moving on with your other writing projects? Hard to know where to start, but the Adventurers have such a history for you now it's often easy to whip one out. Like you said about Belphanior, they write themselves... Patrick Having fun is really the whole point to writing, in my opinion. :) James Thomas, Thanks for producing all of this work on Belph and crew. I'm enjoying it tremendously. later, Ed Hi Thomas This last week has been somewhat of a blast from the past. Recieving an Adventurer a day reminds me of a time three or four years ago (hasn't time flown by!) when you were churning out episodes at a fantastic rate. I look forwards to your new literary creations, and hope that maybe in another three or four years your enthusiasm will return to write a climatic conclusion to the whole saga. > killing it, so all was well.) And thanks to Kent Peterson for > pointing out that Redjack should have left the sails up during > the storm, to help his ship ride the storm out. This is only true if you are trying to run before the storm, eg when attempting to enter a safe harbour before the storm hits you. Once a storm catches you, it is imperative that all the sails are furled, and that you place your bow into the wind (so that you can crest the waves head on, since once you start turning, the ship will wallow and capsize). The strength of wind produced by a storm is actually strong enough to propel a sailing ship just by blowing onto its bare mast and spars! You would also throw a sea anchor off the stern (effectively an underwater sail) to ensure the ship keeps its bow into the wind. In lighter conditions, ie gales, it was sometimes the case to reef a small foresail just to give the ship some steerage way. Any more than that and the ship could (and would) easily capsise if the wind changed direction, and would also be driven backwards. So what you wrote was actually correct, if what was described was a full blown storm. Pete Ok, I loved it. When will it be finished? Although I'm disappointed that we won't get to read about the Adventurer's involvements in the Greyhawk Wars next year, I can't say I'm surprised. The pace you keep up has always amazed me. Time for a break. Thanks! --Sid Holy Geezus! Thomas, Let me just say that I had started reading about last spring, and was immediatly hooked. I mean, Good God! This Peyote/Belphie team up is just like a comic book! I'm starting to read the whole saga over again just because it was so good! I am sorry to see the project go up on sky hooks, but from what I've seen, anything you write deserves a look. Please add me to the list, and once again, thanks for the great stories. Send me ANYTHING that you write. The ideas you've given me are going to blow away my pcs. Thanks again for the epic, and keep up the good work. Sincerely, Cole _Really_ enjoying the new stories. Great work! Bob Hi Thomas, this is just to tell you that I loved adventure 587. As non-action stories go, it's one of the best I can remember. With just the right touch of Bosco-, Peyote- and ESPing-between-Lyra-and-Alindyar-humor. Great story, thanks, Stef Just wanted to drop you a line and let you know how much I'm enjoying reading "The Adventurers." I've read up to about chapter 66 and have found all the stories to be entertaining and good reading. So far I pretty much like all the characters, with the minor exception of Peyote. The stoner/surfer lingo bugs me. I like how Peldor is a braggart � and actually how he gets into the thick of fights. Pretty brave for a thief. I like how Ged is always saying how "Boccob smites ... " or "The might of Boccob..." and I like the rivalry between those two characters. I like Belphanor (the chaotic neutral) and Mongo, and I like how all the characters say "Bah." I also like how Rob is always trying to use the wand of wonder when things are getting desperate. I'm looking forward to reading the remaining 400+ chapters and the lost tales. It IS a high magic campaign, but that's OK too. You're keeping them challenged and making them use their items. I'll write in after another 100 chapters or so. Robert I first discovered your stories from another AD&D site that came up when I "yahooed" the topic. The other site � I forget whose it was � had some AD&D type fiction, including a journal of some of his necromancer's adventures. He had a links page and one of the places he recommended checking was yours. I clicked, did a little reading and decided I'd give it a try. I must say that I'm VERY glad I checked it out. You've done a great job of keeping me drawn into the story. I'll say that I like the "script" (a la a play or a movie) type storytelling better than the more standard "book" type story telling. It gives a better feel for the characters. Robert Anyway, I have to say I'm going to miss the Adventurers after story 600, I've been reading them since late 1992. But it will be good to see you expand into many other areas; you have a unique, no-bullshit style that gets the point across with intimate descriptiveness and clarity. You of course know how many terrible writers there are out there (fictional, non-fictional and fantasy) who somehow get backing by publishers. I do hope to see you in print at some stage in some form or another. But that's your perogative. Thanks for all the laughs, see you in 1999. Ben Hi Thomas, I have been really enjoying all these 1 story a day recently. It has brought back fond memories of the great feelings existed during my D&D days; and when you wrote more regularly. It has been extremely entertaining and I look forward to the resolution of the battle. However, I am sad that there will be no more story in 1999. It will be as if a part of my life has gone away. I have been following these stories for more than 8 years on and off and have reread them many times. I hope you will restart them again in the future. Still, I fully support your decision. Your life should come first especially living life to the full and planning for finding a wife (long term partner) and children. You are not young forever. Many thanks for your 600 entertaining stories and I wish you FUN in your future ventures. Have a Wonderful Christmas and a Fulfilling New Year. Philip I think that the new non-goofy Rob has been reformatted very well. High priests are nothing to be trifled with, especially re undead. It is also very interesting to see the interaction between many of the previously supporting cast who now find themselves at the forefront of the action. Super work, I won't add any suggestions or predictions, since the story has all but certainly been finished by now. Jason Hi Thomas, You'll excuse me for being on first name basis with you, but after reading so much of your work, I feel kind of like I know you. I discovered The Adventurers by luck last spring. I was looking for modules and/or adventure ideas for a game I am starting with my girlfriend and I stumbled on your website. Boy, was I impressed! Somebody who actually took the time to write up an account of a RPG! So I started reading... and never really stopped :) Well, you have something to be proud of. Reading your stories reminded me why I liked (and still like) to play RPGs. It was somewhat like playing the game without any of the overhead. I've just read #500 and I came back to your site to get the rest. And I saw that you would "really" take a break from this series this time... So I decided that congrats were in order at this point. You did well, very well, maybe even better than many so-called professional writers. It has been an interesting ride, with some downs but mostly ups, and I feel lucky to have been on the receiving end of it. As you will be moving to other things, I must say I feel curious to see what you come up with. Which brings me to the second reason for writing to you. Please add me to your mailing list. As far as I'm concerned, anything you write is worth reading. On a side note (that you might find interesting to know), I have been reading these stories to my girlfriend. She was very bad with English (I live in Montreal (Canada) and we speak French around here) so I was reading them aloud to her in French. Let me tell you that this is no trivial exercise. Translating swearwords and slang expressions can be hard and some of the flavor is always lost at the same time. So I started showing her more and more the exact words the characters used and trying to explain to her how different the meaning was in English, etc... And now, she's "finally" learning to read English better, thanks to you! After a while, she was hooked on this and she started reading on her own since I could not keep up with the demands she was putting on me. Well, that's quite enough from me. Have a nice break from our mutual friends, and have fun doing whatever you decide to do in the future. Regards, Dany Next of the long-term villains? But there are only four more stories to go. Does that mean... you plan on starting again...!? Or are you referring to your next series of stories. One other thing - I do hope you reveal to us who Peldor is. I remember a few cryptic comments by him to the tune of "Did you ever feel like there was something you were supposed to do, but you didn't?" I really want to know what that's all about. Jacob > Note #2: I realize that this story is a bit anticlimactic, but > Xusia is not a loose end to be finished neatly; he's the next of > the long-term villains, one whose plans will surface again in the > future. Imagine how mad Belphanior is that Xusia got away and is > out there, somewhere, planning and plotting... >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ TM, And imagine the divinations Belphanior can work with Xusia's hand! Great story arc. I like Belphanior's crew a great deal. The inter-group conflicts and relationships rival those of the original party if you leave out the Peldor-Ged sparring. As you mention Xusia as a long-term villain and the future, I have to wonder how long you can go without writing more stories. I have a sneaking suspicion that we will see more stories from you after #600, maybe not next year, but sometime. Anyway, four more to go. To fill the void on Wednesday mornings, I think I'll start reading the saga again from the beginning. Anyway, good luck in the coming year, and I hope to see more Adventurers stories in the future. Kyle Hi Thomas, Just writing to say how impressed I was with this installment of The Adventurers. I know as a GM just how tricky it can be to keep track of a combat this large - to convey a clear impression of it is even harder! Great work... Cheers, Roger Hi there from a long time fan of the Adventurers. Like most of us I guess, I am greatly enjoying the one a day "feast" but dreading the famine when you have a rest from them next year. How will we survive?? I am curious about something. Having just read the latest Rillen & Songa tale (episode 597) it reminded me about something I have been wanting to ask you for a while, directly related to the events of episode 597 but not specifically to Songa. One thing about magic I have often thought about but haven't ever been able to explore in my campaigns is the effect of pregnancy on a woman who is also a mage. With a number of the female members of the Adventurers being pregnant it seems that now is a good time to bring up the topic and ask whether you have any ideas on this one way or the other. I find it quite an intriguing subject but have never really had a chance to delve into it. None of the female PCs in my campaigns (PBEM or otherwise) have ever become pregnant. With so many top female athletes in most sports now finding that they have improved on their previous best performances after a pregnancy, I wonder what the effect on a female mage would be? Would a pregnancy serve to improve or hinder their mastery of magic? How much? And how? At what point would any effects begin to occur -- how far into the pregnancy? I seem to recall reading somewhere long ago that before birth a baby in relation to it's mothers body is basically a parasite. While I am no doctor, that in many ways rings true. How would this "relationship" and all the associated physical, hormonal and emotional changes effect a woman's ability to use and master magic? There are so many possibilities to explore! While I find this a fertile (sorry -- couldn't resist!) area for thought, discussion and investigation, I won't be offended if you think it's a lot of crap and simply ignore it. I am sure that I will get the chance to play with these ideas in my own games eventually. It just might be later rather than sooner. BTW: I think you let the gang off a bit lightly in episode 596. I would have thought that Xusia would be a little better prepared than he *seemed* to be. Or did I miss something? Anyway, I long ago figured him for a long-term foe (for Belphanior especially) and knew that he would certainly escape. I will be very interested in seeing their next encounter. Obviously Belphanior & co will be even better prepared for him by then too. Cheers. Joe It's been over two, maybe three years since I've last written, as I'm one of those Evil people who rarely, if ever, respond to email in a timely fashion. Som, among other things, I missed responding to a number of various polls and things, for which I'd have to apologize. I'd been reading since Episode 205 or so, and am looking forward to Episode 600, and it's been one hell of a ride. Nearly 600 episodes. I wonder if any RPG fiction net-author even comes close... Well...I've just finished reading #598,. and I guess I'd have to say that the resolution you chose was just about best way it could be resolved, for all parties involved. As soon as I read the paragraph where Rillen made the wish, I had to stop, and step back, for if it worked, it would be something Songa would have found very close to unforgivable. While I didn't think it likely that Songa would have left the baby, but could all-too-easily see her leaving Rillen over such a thing. Thinking back over the last several years, I can't remember a single thing I've read that made me stop, step back, and worry so much about what was going to happen. This probably means I've not been reading the right sorts of books over the past couple years. Oh well,. I suppose I would have preferred that the child have lived, though not at the expense of Rillen and Songa's relationship... I only stumbled across the Aliens story on the website about a week ago. Another good story, More great stuff. If you don't mind, I'd like to share an observation I made when Alien3 was in theatres. The things are fast., strong, and riddled with defensive features, like high-pressure acidic blood, heavily armored exoskeletons, and a positively hideous birth and growth rate that takes them from egg to adult in a mere matter of days. To me, these myriad defenses, and most tellingly, the birth rates mean one thing...If the Aliens evolved naturally, then wherever they came from, they are nowhere near the top of the Food Chain. The marines should be glad that they haven't run into these things yet... The other keen thing about them is that they take on the characteristics of whatever creature they gestate in. So far, the most awesome metamorphosis I've seen was the enormous crocodile-Alien in Batman/Aliens. While I suppose it might be a little late to set it up now,, I personally think a Dragon-Alien would blow the croc out of the water.. "Something about that Black Dragon doesn't look quite right..." I've started my annual re-reading of all the episodes again, and managed to reach about Book Seven so far. chuckling about the prophetic words that Belphanior "Will get the whole party in trouble one day" from the first survey, and getting a much better feel for what the characters look like. Perhaps i might make another attempt at drawing the party, one that won't fail as disastrously as my former tries. Maybe not... Oddly, I've also started wondering about the people of Peldor's keep., wondering if there's any resentment that he just foisted them off into Ged's hands, and, near as I can tell, hasn't been back recently to see them. I'm also wondering if any of them are working at the Green Dragon Inn, feeling it their duty, and a great honor to work at the feet of The Maste... \|=) Well, I've got exams to go fail horribly, so I guess I'm going to cut this short now. Thanks for years of excellent reading, and in '99, Wednesdays just wont be the same. I suppose I'll just have to confine myself to new issues of The Onion, Comic Shopping, and Star Trek Voyager (Blechh.) Wonder if there'll be an Episode 1000? \|=) Nana-Yaw This is the last martial-arts tournament that I will ever write. > It's not that it was particularly tough to do, but it's just been > done enough. For me, and for Rillen. Nice fight with Rillen and Bruce... > I have been getting a lot of questions about the jade ring and > why it didn't work. Well, the answer is: Rillen doesn't know. > And therefore, no one else will ever know, either. It really > doesn't matter. Hmm, Rillen's wish seemed interesting enough. The wording used was: Rillen: (reaches in a pouch and retrieves the jade ring, staring at it for what seems like an eternity) Forgive me, Songa. (removing one of the other rings he usually wears, he puts the jade ring on, clears his throat, then speaks without hesitation, drawing upon his memories of all the times he's witnessed such magic at work, striving for simplicity while covering all possible contingencies)wish...that my and Songa's newborn baby was alive and healthy. Yes, by common sense this could be counted as covering all possible contingencies, but knowing the nature of wishes (you've been using them in a nice way) I'd say that this does not exclude the wish from affecting their NEXT newborn baby. certainly it would explain something to all nasty questioners...? Well, I won't expect you to use this idea. If you just wanted the ring not to work, then the ring didn't work. You are still the DM. Samppa